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2005/1/3 [Health/Disease/General, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:35528 Activity:very high
1/3     New (substantiated?) rumor that the bulge on Bush's back is a LifeVest
        defibrillator.  Apparently has atrial fibrillation, and suffered a
        mini-stroke (2002 Pretzel incident).  Any thoughts?
        \_ More detailed discussion of the defibrillator theory:
           http://colombia.indymedia.org/news/2004/12/20636.php
           \_ You know, it's crap usage like this that makes people talk about
              "theory" vs. fact.  It's not a theory, it's a steaming pile of
              random speculation.
              \_ "Conspiracy theory" is a pretty commonly used term, and most
                 conspiracy theories are pretty much exactly what you describe.
                 I am using the word "theory" in an identical context here.
                 If you don't like the way the English language has developed,
                 please fuck off and cry to someone else about it.
        \_ Go read "Interface" by Stephen Bury (a pen name for Neal Stephenson)
           at once.
        \_ Sometimes a suit is just a suit.
        \_ I doubt it. If he does in fact have a heart problem that
           requires a defibrillator, he'd have an implantable one like
           every patient with the problem.
                    \_ you're an idiot.   -tom
                       \_ Almost by definition, you have shown that he is not.
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colombia.indymedia.org/news/2004/12/20636.php
enviar por e-mail Este artculo ha sido rechazado: George Bush -- Take THIS Story to Your New Year's Party by Arial H Friday, Dec. Th is would mean he is at risk of sudden cardiac arrest (SCA) or sudden ca rdiac death (SCD). jpg, image/jpeg, 187x175 The LiveVest is a wearable version of "the paddles" you have seen in emer gency room scenes on TV. He started using it sometime after his January 2002 fainting spell, which was attributed to choking. Photos of Mr Bush and the device seem to show that this is the mysterious bulge seen on h is back in the debates. The first graphic is a back view showing the two large electrodes that ar e equivalent to "the paddles." Note the electrical cord leading down to the defibrillator/heart monitor, which is a paperback-book size unit wor n on a waist belt. Again, note the electrodes on Mr Bush's back and the cord leading down to the defibrillator. Some of the photos that have appeared elsewhe re show a ridge in the electrode assembly, which is formed by the adjoin ing edges of the two electrodes. One can also see the somewhat bulky shoulder straps in some photos of the president. I have looked for body armor that would create a similar impressio n under a suit coat. The vest below is the closest I could find, courtes y Bullet Proof ME It is a A Pro MAX bulletproof vest, described as "des igned for easy concealment under normal clothes." If the president's suits are that important to him, surely he could find a bulletproof vest that would be inconspicuous, at taxpayer expense. RADIO RECEIVER/AUDIO PROMPTER Microminiaturization of electronics is so well known that the possibility of the bulge being the audio equivalent of a TelePrompter -- an audio p rompter -- does not bear much discussion. According to (Gordon) Moore's Law, the amount of circuitry that can fit in a given space doubles every 18 months. Radio receivers have long been capable of being miniaturized to the point where they can't have control knobs or wheels, let alone s peakers. Radio receivers for espionage work can be concealed almost anyw here on the body. However, some classes of electrical devices, transducers and electrodes, resist miniaturization and certainly don't follow Moore's Law. The elect rodes of the LifeVest must overcome skin resistance and transfer 150 jou les of energy into the body in just 5 one-thousandths of a second. Even with the conductive gel it secretes, the LifeVest back electrode -- a tw o-piece affair -- has an area of about 176 sq cm, or about 5-1/4 by 5-1/ 4 inches. This is the square protrusion that we are seeing in the photos . Based on photos showing him wearing the LifeVest, one can conclude the fa inting was due to atrial fibrillation (AF), which his father also had. H is father's AF was caused by Graves' hyperthyroidism, which Barbara Bush also has. Bush Jr likely has AF and, less likely, Graves', based on his family history and symptoms. The AF may have caused a stroke or TIA (mi ni-stroke), of which physicians watching the debates detected symptoms. Observers have noted psychological symptoms consistent with this and wit h Wernicke-Korsakoff disease. "The doctors said that Mr Bush had a 'low' to 'very low' risk of coronar y artery disease, although they found evidence of minimal calcification of the coronary arteries themselves. As a preventative, they recommended that Mr Bush take a daily aspirin and a statin, or cholesterol-lowerin g drug," reported the New York Times. It's interesting that his doctors advised him to take aspirin and statin. Aspirin is used to prevent clotting, which is a problem with AF (the co ndition he apparently wears the LifeVest for). Statins are the most pote nt cholesterol-lowering agents, lowering LDL (so-called "bad cholesterol ) by 30-50 percent. They are less effective than fibrates in lowering tr iglycerides and raising HDL ("good cholesterol"). But Bush's doctors sai d he had a "low" to "very low" risk of heart disease, and his total chol esterol level was listed as 170 mg/dL, which is considered within the no rmal range. There is ongoing research into other areas where statins appear to have a n effect, including dementia. Science Daily recently reported (11/17/04) : "The cholesterol-lowering drug atorvastatin slowed down mental decline and improved depressive symptoms in people with Alzheimers disease" The LifeVest (left) has an electrode belt with four sensing/ECG electrode s These send signals to the heart monitor/defibrillator, typically worn like a holster. When the monitor detects a life-threatening heart arrhy thmia, it sends a signal to the small, handheld patient-interface module (a little like a computer "mouse" but with just buttons and alarms). The user, if able to do so, depresses two buttons on the module to hold off a shock from the defibrillator. If the user faints and is unable to press the buttons, the defibrillator -- within one minute -- sends a 200 0-volt electrical pulse to the large shocking electrode on the patient's back and a smaller one on the chest. The pulse can be repeated until th e heart starts pumping blood effectively, up to five pulses. Kerry, one can clearly see the shocking electrode between the shoulder blades as well as the elect rical cord leading down to the monitor/defibrillator. THE FAINTING INCIDENT OF JANUARY 2002 On January 13, 2002, President Bush lost consciousness while sitting on a couch in the White House, watching a football game. His head hit the fl oor, resulting in an abrasion on his left cheekbone and a small bruise o n his lower lip. The incident was blamed on a combination of Mr Bus h not feeling well in previous days and an improperly eaten pretzel. Their combined effect was to slow the president's heart. The descriptio n suggests a vasovagal attack: A pretzel lodged in his throat stimulated the vagus nerve to send a signal to his heart, slowing it down and redu cing blood flow so much he fainted, according to White House physician C ol. Richard J Tubb, MD Of course, even in this day of telemedicine, it is difficult and uncertai n for anyone to diagnose a patient without having access to examination and test records. That doesn't stop physicians and psychologists from tr ying, especially on someone with President Bush's visibility. Obviously, considerable testing and examination have been done; but the American p ublic does not always have the latest results, as they found out after o ther presidents, including Roosevelt and Kennedy, left office. Besides p hotographic evidence, there are observations and quotes from doctors, ba sed on hours of Bush TV appearances, voluminous reports in the media, an d the president's own words. ATRIAL FIBRILLATION (AF) In the January 2002 pretzel-choking episode, according to President Bush, the period of unconsciousness was brief -- a few seconds. When fainting begins and ends suddenly, the cause of fainting usually is not what his doctors reported (vasovagal syncope) but instead is an abnormal heart r hythm such as atrial fibrillation (AF). Chronic AF is consistent with Mr Bush's requirement for constant monitoring and immediate access to def ibrillation. Atrial fibrillation can lead to disastrous consequences if the patient is capable of sustaining a very rapid preexcited ventricular response with conduction over the accessory pathway. or, more important, AF may cause vent ricular fibrillation and sudden cardiac death. The LifeVest the presiden t wears terminates ventricular fibrillation or ventricular tachycardia ( overspeed) to prevent sudden cardiac death. This may be the reason the p resident wore the device during the debates, even though he risked expos ing his vulnerability, especially if the device alarm sounded. According to the Framingham Offspring study of AF, a person whose parent had AF is 50 percent more likely to have it than the general population. While jogging at Camp David on a Saturday afternoon (May 4, 1991), Bush Sr developed shor tness of breath, chest tightness, and a general feeling of fatigue. A Wh ite House physician discovered Bush had a rapid irregular heartbeat, ult imately diagnosed as atrial fibrillation caused by Graves' disease, a fo rm ...