12/10   Has anyone worked for Deloitte as a system analyst?  What's the
        best and and worst thing about working there?
        \_ How much does that job pay?
           \_ I'm not an analyst, so I don't know exactly how much they
              are making, they don't publish the salaries internally.
              Though I can estimate based on a Manager's salary.  For a first
              year Systems Analyst (Consultant) it would probably be
              $55-$60k.
                \_ What about for a person with 10 years experience?
                   \_ With 10yrs and assuming Managerial experience you
                      may be able to come in as a Manager which means
                      $95-$105k.
                \_ why do you guys always care about pay? yes it's
                   important, but an enjoyable job far outweighs a good
                   salary. !op
                   \_ Because you can ask for and get a reasonably helpful
                      answer on the motd-- quality of life, enjoyability,
                      etc ratings are harder to come by.
                   \_ It's called "living in the bay area"
                      \_ IT'S NOT A HOUSING BUBBLE!!!!  PRICES ARE TOTALLY
                         REASONABLE!!!!  IF YOU WONT PAY 700,000 DOLLARS
                         FOR A SHITHOLE SINGLE FAMILY HOME IN THE SOUTH
                         BAY 45 MINUTES FROM ANYTHING YOU ARE JUST LAZY!!!
                         \_ Bitter that you didn't get in while you
                            still could?
                            \_ OF COURSE I'M BITTER!!!! OBVIOUSLY ANYONE WHO
                               DOESN'T LIVE IN THE BAY AREA IS BITTER AND
                               STUPID!!!!
                        \_ true but I'm assuming the op has viable alternatives.
                   \_ I am interested in what other companies pay. This is
                      very important in terms of career growth and options.
                      Obviously, the job has to be enjoyable, but it has
                      to pay well, too. Otherwise, forget it. Yes, I want
                      it all. Don't you?
                   \_ Though job satisfaction is important, you can't eat it or
                      buy a house with it.  If I wanted a cool job with no pay,
                      I could do that at home.
                      \_ "Hell, you don't nee a million dollars to do that, man;
                         take a look at my cousin. He's broke, don't do shit."
        \_ Not an answer to your question, but my one experience with them
           was bad bordering on hilarious.  Of course that was D&T UK.  -John
        \_ I've been with Deloitte for 7 years, 5 in the Systems group
           (ERS).  I think it's a great company, though certainly not my
           dream job.
           + Stable job
           + Meet a lot of different people
           + Work with different Managers
           + Reasonable pay, fluctuates with market
           + Learn about different computer environments
           + Travel 10-30% (Hawaii)
           - Long hours parts of the year
           - Auditing clients generally not well received
             \_ DT guys breathed down our IT department's neck
                so much, they got the CIO fired.
                \_ Whoops, was that your CIO? ;)
                \_ Here they did their share of destroying a ~$500 million
                   e-banking project, were raided by immigration services
                   several times for using contractors without valid permits
                   (thereby losing ca. half their effective workforce each
                   time), designed a platform around AS400 (this in 1999) only
                   to realize 75% through the deployment that their key
                   component didn't run on AS400, and ended up being sued for
                   gross incompetence and negligence by the client.  It was
                   classic big IT consulting firm.  -John
           - Slow to adjust pay to Market
           - Travel 10-30% (Idaho)