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11/30   New AMD 90nm CPUs kick yermom's ass (see power consumption)
        http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/athlon64-90nm_5.html
        We are back to ~ Pentium III land in terms of power consumption.
        \_ Wow.  TMTA's last puny leg to stand on was their "low power
        \_ Wow.  TMNT's last puny leg to stand on was their "low power
           consumption at 90nm" technology.  Looks like I got out of that
           hellhole just in the nick of time.  --ex-TMTA
           \_ TMTA?
           hellhole just in the nick of time.  --ex-TMNT
           \_ Which turtle were you?  I was always partial to Leonardo.
              \_ Teenage Mutant Technical Associates
                 \_ I...don't think I remember that one.  Are you sure you
                    don't mean Mike or something?
           \_ TMNT?
              \_ Too Many Tortured Acronyms
                 \_ It's a fucking stock ticker symbol, you Communists.
              \_ Sigh...Transmeta. --ex-TMTA
                 \_ Too Many Thickheaded Academics
              \_ Sigh...Transmeta. --ex-TMNT
              \_ Heroes in a half shell!
                    \_ Sadly, that just about sums it up. --ex-TMTA
              \_ Sigh...Transmeta. --ex-TMTA
              \_ Heroes in a fuck you!
                 \_ pp is right.  Transmeta is TMTA.
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www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/athlon64-90nm_5.html
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During the tests we compared the temp erature of Socket 939 Athlon 64 processors on Winchester core and Athlon 64 processors on NewCastle core working at the frequencies from 18GHz to 24GHz. Note that we set the 18GHz, 20GHz and 22GHz frequencies wi th the corresponding frequency multiplier, ie as 9x200MHz, 10x200MHz a nd 11x200MHz respectively, while the 24GHz core clock was achieved as a result of CPU overclocking by raising the FSB frequency: 11x209MHz The processor Vcore remained nominal in all cases, and we used the same box ed cooler for all our tests. The temperature values were measured with t he help of the thermal diode built into the processor core. The core tem perature was measured in two modes: idle mode and under maximum CPU work load created by S&M utility version 100 alpha. In the idle mode the 90nm Winchester core is considerably cooler than the NewCastle core. However, under 100% CPU workload these two temperatures appear really close. 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