11/23   How do alumni losers score four (4) Rose Bowl tickets?  Is there any
        viable way other than staying on the phone on ticketmaster or buying
        them off Cal season ticket holders / current students?  I assume
        they're going to be $120 a pop.  Thanks in advance.
        \_ I'm still tryig to understand this alumni football thing.  Did
           you like  football as an undergrad also, or did you somehow get
           brainwashed after graduation?  -'98 alumnus who still hates football
           \_ Season tickets were much easier to get when our team wasn't
              as good.  I got to watch Cal slap San Jose St 55-0.
              -meyers, 96 alumnus who still likes football
           \_ Yes, I liked Cal football when I was an undergrad.  The band
              was great.  Mariucci was great for the year he was there.
              Tien was great while he was alive. -op '97
              \_  After all the things Tien did in his life before being
                  chancelor and after all the things he did for Berkeley,
                  I think it's pretty sad that alumni are remembering him
                  for his role as a cheerleader.
                  \_ I wasn't in school during Tien's reign but I think of him
                     fondly based on these stories, even the go beah
                     type.  The only time Berdahl ever got involved in any
                     school-spirit related activity was when he threatened
                     arrest for the frat guys who stole the Axe.  Fuck Berdahl.
                     Go Tien.  Go Beah!
                     \_ they stole the tree costume, and one of those guys
                        has recently become a regular poster on http://bearinsider.com
                  \-i hate corrupt college sports but even i think this is
                    ridiculous. what is being acknowledged is tien's affection
                    for the instiution and the undergrad students. people
                    appreciate his non-aloofness compared to say ira michael
                    heyman. go beah! --psb
                    \_ Tien was the only UC chancellor/provost I've heard of
                       who made rounds of the libraries after midnight before
                       finals. His was a hell of an act to follow. -- ulysses
                       \- ROSEBUD! --psb
                  \_ I remember him for helping bring in shitloads of money.
                     - other alum
                  \_ That's a pretty cynical opinion. -op
           \_ Had my heart broken by Bears in the 1990 Big Game, am finally
              beginning to think they have a chance again. --erikred
              \_ I still can't believe it, and I went to 3 home games. I
                 mean, I'm still waiting for it to all fall apart. It's hard
                 to get rid of that negative mentality after so many years
                 of teh suck.
                 \_ Now multiply by 7, and that's how the Red Sox fans felt.
        \_ $120, heh.