11/22 I posted this last week but no one responded (thinking it was
a HW problem) so I'll ask again: given a group of several
values, is there a way to evaluate or determine if the variability
between those numbers are significant or not? And if so, what
statistical test should be used? Thanks.
\_ Where did the numbers come from? Is there an underlying
stochastic (or otherwise) process you can describe? -- ilyas
\_ No it's not stochastic. Does it matter, though? Can't
you just take the numbers at face value?
\_ I don't know what 'variability' means. If it's a
normal distribution from which the numbers come,
you can estimate the variance, and that's one
notion of 'variability.' If the process is not
stochastic, and has no stochastic interpretation,
why are you interested in 'variability'? -- ilyas
\_ OK, so I have a series of about 10 numbers.
I want to know if they really are the "same"
or not. Let's say I had 3.0, 2.9, and 3.1,
I want to determine whether they are actually
centering around one central value (in this
contrived example, 3). Is it enough to calculate
the percent change from one number to the next
and note that it's low, or is there a more
objective statistical test I can use?
\_ If you want to quantify how much variation there
is in your numbers, there are lots of ways: some
common ones are range, sample standard deviation,
population standard deviation, and average
deviation. You have to pick an appropriate
measure and an appropriate cutoff point for
"the same" based on what the numbers mean.
Just looking at your numbers above in isolation,
you can't say they're the same at all -- say you
were measuring the speed of light in different
media, in units of 10^8 m/s. If you got 3.0 for
some and 2.9 for others it would conclusively
show that the media were different, and if you
got 3.1 it would be earth-shattering. --mconst
\_ Well the series of values were taken
from a biological source, where there
actually is some baseline value (in
theory).
\_ It's called an average...
\_ You can't make something from nothing. You
need to make assumptions about the numbers
(if you don't know how you got them), or think
about how the numbers are created. -- ilyas
\_ I think the problem is that you're looking for
a one size fits all solution to a humongous class
of problems for which none exists. Why don't
you just put the data in /csua/tmp and let us
mess around with it?
\_ Any series of numbers can be the "same" for some
arbitrary distribution.
\_ GIVE US THE GODDAMN DATA! And tell us the context. The whole
context. Saying "it's a bunch of numbers" does not constitute
giving the context, and saying you want to "determine the
variablility" doesn't really tell us what you want to know.
\_ You need a statistics education. The motd cannot help. |