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2004/11/9 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:34772 Activity:high
11/8    Someone please explain how the Fallujah fight works. The US
        army goes in, the civilians and insurgents flee, and victory
        is claimed. But eventually when the civilians and insurgents
        come back, they'll just do more sniping and suicide bombing.
        So what's the point of attacking Fallujah in the first place?
        \_ we will hunt down and fight and kill the evil-doers.
        \_ Same mistake we made in Vietnam:  we think that grabbing land will
           somehow equal victory, but Zarqawi (sp?) and the rest of the heads
           of Team Fallujah have already left.  Watch out for the next
           Fallujah sometime soon.
           \_ Some people always escape.  You don't need to kill 100% of the
              enemy to render them ineffective as a fighting force.  A few
              kill leaders and lots of dead bodies is usually enough.  Watch
              out for the next Fallujah?  This isn't the first city that's
              been stomped on like this.  How come we don't hear about all
              those other cities still being terrorist havens?
                    \_ Wow, you're really dumb. You have no idea what
                    guerilla warfare entails. Get ready for your object
                    lesson.
                       \_ Yes, I do know.  What exactly are your gueillas
                          going to eat and shoot with and hide once the world
                          passes them by?  Do you read the Arab press?  Since
                          they started killing Iraqi children and cops, their
                          support has plumeted.  This is mop up.  It'll go on
                          beyond their elections but there won't be any more
                          Fallujas.  The political situation has changed.  You
                          put way too much faith in a bunch of random angry
                          dudes with no training.  I'll take the U.S. Marines
                          on this one.
                          \_ Even the marines are admitting that the bigwigs
                             are no longer in the city.  They'll take their
                             support elsewhere and set up shop, and the Sunnis
                             will boycott the election.
                             \_ "Che Guevara".  You can't have a revolution
                                without goons.  -John
        \_ It's a matter of whether they can permantly secure and bring
           order to Fallujah and other cities with Iraqi forces.  If not,
           it's a lost cause.
        \_ It'll be difficult to snipe while wearing bags and leashes, and
           with LYNDIE keeping an eye on them.
        \_ Fallujah is the symbol and HQ of the insurgents.
           Naturally, if the U.S. pacifies the city and it re-erupts in
           violence, that's bad!
        \_ It has their FLAG, dumbass. -geordan
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