11/4 Maybe next time you'll listen to me and vote for the truly progressive
candidate instead of wasting it on spinners and liars. You knew when
you gave him the primary that you didn't like him but for some strange
reason though the rest of the country was so stupid you could put
lipstick on the pig and they'd vote for it. Well, the country saw
a pig with lipstick. You got the government you deserve and yes I'm
pissed off that this otherwise golden opportunity to create a true
party for the people was completely and utterly thrown away. -N'04
\_ The country did vote for the pig with the lipstick!
\_ Let me make this absolutely crystal fucking clear.
1) I voted for Kerry in the primary because I like the guy.
2) He got more total votes than Gore did in 2000 or than Clinton
*ever* got, or even than Reagan ever got. That's right.
he actually got slightly more votes than Reagan in 1984.
\_ Hello, idiot. Meet a new concept called 'population growth.'
\_ There was a baby boom in 1984? 'Cos I missed it. More
like there was greater voter turnout this year, idiot.
\_ Hello shit-eating fucktard. Are you telling me that
the amount of votes Kerry got over Reagan is bigger than
the proportional amount of democratic new voters
since 1984?
\_ You poor deluded pus-ridden gut-twat, I'm telling
you that the BushDrone drove more people to actually
register and vote for his opponent than bothered to
vote for Reagan.
2) If it was between Nader and Bush, I would have voted for Bush.
3) Nader couldn't even get the nomination of HIS OWN FUCKING PARTY!
4) Since he wasn't on the ohio ballot and florida wasn't close,
Nader wasn't even a spoiler this time.
5) Fuck you and die.
\_ Lipstick on a pig? Uhm, you're a weirdo.
\_ Dean would have been a better choice than Nader.
\_ Dean would have lost by 10-15 points.
\_ And how many points would Nader have lost by if he had
been the Democratic nominee?
\_ Oh, well, if you say so, it must be true.
\_ The people hate Nader. Nader is a giant cock. party for the poeple
my ass. I know I bashed Kerry at times but if you look at what he's
done this campaign the guy deserves some respect. Stupid third
parties can't even win a local election anywhere. Not even some
state assembly member or anything.
\_ why are you responding to the obvious troll?
\_ He's sort of got a point. I don't understand
all this ruminating about the missing
morality issue. I think the much simpler
reason why Kerry lost is because he was
was uninspiring as a personality. People
voted for him in the primaries because
they thought he was the guy who could
beat Bush, not because they were
particularily excited about him as a
candidate. That, plus he's from a region
that hasn't fielded a successful presidential
candidate since 1960. I hate the Bush
presidency, but I was voting for Kerry more-
or-less only because he wasn't Bush. I can
imagine that someone who wasn't a Bush
fan, but didn't hate his actions either, not
seeing much of a reason to vote Kerry.
It retrospect (as many people at the time
and throughout pointed out), it was pretty
brain-dead. We need a Howard Dean-type,
but from the south in 2008. (sorry about the formatting)
\_ He's sort of got a point. I don't understand all this
ruminating about the missing morality issue. I think the
much simpler reason why Kerry lost is because he was was
uninspiring as a personality. People voted for him in the
primaries because they thought he was the guy who could beat
Bush, not because they were particularily excited about him
as a candidate. That, plus he's from a region that hasn't
fielded a successful presidential candidate since 1960. I
hate the Bush presidency, but I was voting for Kerry more-
or-less only because he wasn't Bush. I can imagine that
someone who wasn't a Bush fan, but didn't hate his actions
either, not seeing much of a reason to vote Kerry. It
retrospect (as many people at the time and throughout
pointed out), it was pretty brain-dead. We need a Howard
Dean-type, but from the south in 2008. (sorry about the
formatting) |
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