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2004/11/3 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:34616 Activity:kinda low
11/3    Bush first president since Bush Sr. to win > 50% of popular vote:
            http://truthnews.net/comment/2000_11_mandate.html
        (article written in 2000)
        \_ uh, so it was Bush Sr. > 50%, then Clinton < 50%, then Bush Jr.
           Term 1 < 50%, now Bush Jr Term 2 > 50%?
           \_ yes
              \_ What about Clinton Term 2?
                 \_ Clinton got < 50% of popular.  See infoplease link below.
        \_ http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0781450.html
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TruthNews Commentary, November 8, 2000 Will the new president have a mandate? The short answer is no, but the re asons are somewhat complicated, and ultimately derive from the constitut ional separation of powers. Under our constitutional form of government, the Congress, as the people' s elected representatives, has the most important role in government and is responsible for providing for the operation of the federal governmen t through legislation. The functions prescribed to Congress include the power to raise and appropriate money for federal programs, regulate comm erce, provide copyright and patent protection, maintain and regulate the armed forces, declare war, establish the post office and court system, and to define and punish federal crimes. The role of the president is to act as commander-in-chief of the armed forces, appoint, with concurrenc e of the Senate, the federal department heads, ambassadors, judges, and other federal officers, negotiate treaties (which must be confirmed by 2 /3 vote of the Senate), veto acts of Congress (which can still become la w if 2/3 of both houses vote for it), and propose legislation. It is this last function of proposing legislation that the term "mandate" typically applies to. During the election, both candidates made numerou s promises about what they would do if elected President--reform Social Security, cut taxes, improve health care, etc. However, most of these pr oposals require congressional action. The President can propose whatever he wants, but the Congress can act upon or ignore the President's propo sals, and the President's only recourse is to veto unsatisfactory legisl ation. However, a President who has been elected with a large majority c an make a valid case that the people have given him a mandate to carry o ut his program of legislative initiatives. The last president who can be regarded having a mandate and successfully using it was Ronald Reagan. Reagan, a Republican, was elected with a lar ge majority in 1980 on a platform of cutting taxes and increasing spendi ng for the military. The Congress gave him what he wanted, even though t he House of Representatives was controlled by the Democrats. As one Demo cratic congressman explained, "the people want it, so we're going to do it." Part of Bush's pr oblem was that he did not "sell" any agenda to the people other than pre venting tax increases. "Read my lips--no new taxes," was his primary cam paign pledge during the 1988 campaign and thus became his mandate. Howev er, Bush squandered his mandate by signing into law a tax increase. Bill Clinton, who defeated Bush in 1992, proposed revamping the nation's hea lth care system. However, Clinton, like the winner of this year's electi on, received less than a majority of the popular vote. Ross Perot ran as a third party candidate and drew 19% of the vote. Although Clinton won the electoral vote by a landslide of 370-168, he received only 43% of th e popular vote. In addition, Clinton had not clearly stated how he was g oing to reform health care. Thus, Clinton could not legitimately argue t hat "the people" supported his health care plan since only 43% of the pe ople had voted for him, and even they had not known what his health care plan consisted of. The subsequent health care plan delivered by Clinton to congress was soundly defeated, and was a large factor in the Republi cans gaining control of Congress in the 1994 elections. This year, due to the presence of third party candidates Ralph Nader and Pat Buchanan, both Al Gore and George W Bush received less than a major ity of the popular vote--only 48% of the vote. The vote in the electoral college will also be very close, so neither can claim a mandate. Althou gh at Gore claims to have "won" the popular vote, he still has less than a majority. Gore can't go to Congress and say "48% of the people suppor t my targeted tax cut plan, so you should pass the legislation. If Bush ends up as President, he'll probably be more succesful in getting Congre ss to approve his program. However, this won't be because of any mandate but simply because the Republican controlled congress agrees with his p rogram in the first place. A mandate is not necessary for the functioning of t he government. The Congress will make laws and the president will carry them out. 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Democratic 171 83 7 1832 Andrew Jackson Henry Clay John Floyd William Wirt Votes not cast Democratic Natl. Frelinghuysen Democratic Whig 170 105 1848 Zachary Taylor^7 Lewis Cass Whig Democratic 163 127 Millard Fillmore William O Butler Whig Democratic 163 127 1852 Franklin Pierce Winfield Scott Democratic Whig 254 42 William R King William A Graham Democratic Whig 254 42 1856 James Buchanan John C Fremont Millard Fillmore Democratic Republican American^8 174 114 8 John C Breckinridge William L Dayton A J Donelson Democratic Republican American^8 174 114 8 1860 Abraham Lincoln John C Breckinridge John Bell Stephen A Douglas Republican Democratic Const. Union Democratic 180 72 39 12 Hannibal Hamlin Joseph Lane Edward Everett H V Johnson Republican Democratic Const. Union Democratic 180 72 39 12 1864 Abraham Lincoln^9 George B McClellan Union^10 Democratic 212 21 Andrew Johnson G H Pendleton Union^10 Democratic 212 21 1868 Ulysses S Grant Horatio Seymour Votes not counted^11 Republican Democratic 214 80 23 Schuyler Colfax Francis P Blair, Jr. Votes not counted^11 Republican Democratic 214 80 23 NOTE: Due to the communications constrictions of the time and the lack of formal political party organizations, the framers of the Constitution s pecified that the president and vice president be chosen based upon the votes cast by members of an electoral college rather than by a direct po pular vote. Eventually, states began to change the method by which elect ors cast their votes. Today, all but two states, Maine and Nebraska, hav e a winner-take-all system in which a popular vote decides which candida tes will be given all of a given state's electoral votes. The number of popular votes won by each presidential candidate are listed here for ele ctions beginning in 1872. Democratic Democratic 286 (^12) 42 18 2 1 17 3,597,132 2,834,125 Henry WilsonR B Gratz BrownD, LR(47) Scattering(19) Vote not counted(14) 1876^13 Rutherford B Hayes Samuel J Tilden Peter Cooper Republican Democratic Greenback 185 184 0 4,033,768 4,285,992 81,737 William A WheelerR Thomas A HendricksD Samuel F CaryG 1880 James A Garfield^14 Winfield S Hancock James B Weaver Republican Democratic Greenback 214 155 0 4,449,053 4,442,035 308,578 Chester A ArthurR William H EnglishD B J ChambersG 1884 Grover Cleveland James G Blaine Benjamin F Butler John P St. The New York legislature chose no electors, and North Carolina and Rhode Island had not yet ratif ied the Constitution. In a vote by states, 10 votes were cast for Jefferson, 4 fo r Burr; In a vote by states, 13 votes were cast for Adams, 7 for Jackson, and 4 for Crawford. Name adopted by the Republican National Convention of 1864. Hayes was chosen by a special electoral commission since initially ne ither candidate had the requisite 185 electoral votes. James S Sherman, Republican candidate for vice president, died Oct. Roosevelt died April 12, 1945, and Truman succeeded him the same day. One electoral vote from Alabama was cast for Walter B Jones. One electoral vote from Virginia was cast for John Hospers, Libertari an Party. One electoral vote from Washington was cast for Ronald Reagan. One electoral vote from West Virginia was cast for Lloyd Bentsen. Perot helped establish the Reform Party following his defeat in the 1 992 election. One elector from the District of Columbia left her ballot blank to pr otest the city's lack of representation in Congress, leaving Gore with 2 66 electoral votes instead of 267.