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2004/11/3 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:34615 Activity:nil
11/3    So I was talking to my O'Reilly-watching younger brother last night
        about how Dick Cheney was wrong about there being "no doubt" about
        Saddam having WMDs or even WMD programs.  My brother replied, kind
        of emotionally, that Saddam definitely had them, and maybe they were
        moved to Iran or Syria or they were still hidden.  He said he "knows
        how the world works".
        I told him about David Kay, who Dubya appointed, who said "We were
        almost all wrong"; and the Duelfer report, which concluded there were
        no WMDs or WMD programs.  I told him Saddam wanted to play by the
        rules to lift sanctions, but pretend that he had WMDs to deter other
        countries, and that he thought the CIA knew he didn't have them.
        I told him as soon as the UN looked away, Saddam would restart his
        WMD programs.  I told him that Cheney said "We just don't know" about
        WMDs being moved to Syria or Iran, since there were trucks spotted
        moving across the border with contents unknown.  My younger brother
        insisted Saddam had weapons.  Why?  He said again, rather strenuously,
        because he "knows how the world works".  He sugested that David Kay
        is a politician.  I said "What motive does he have?"  "Maybe to write
        a book!"  "He's been ostracized.  He went in almost certain there were
        WMDs.  He was hand-picked by Bush.  What motive does he have?"
        "He's being political."  My younger brother "knows how the world
        works", and probably voted for Dubya.
        \_ My cousin also believes this, because he says be have taped
           conversations that Saddam himself believed this.  Supposedly there
           might have been people in his own government who may have mislead
           Saddam, and by extension, the intelligence we gathered.
           \_ The problem is that, the Duelfer report notes that the U.S.
              has been interrogating Saddam, and he has been forthcoming in
              appeals to his vanity.  Saddam didn't have them, he wanted
              Iran to think he had them, he would rebuild them as soon as
              sanctions were lifted and do what he could get away with.
        \_ the problem is not your brother, but Fox News that mixes opinions
           and facts and distorts views for the right wing agenda.
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