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2004/10/29-30 [Science/GlobalWarming] UID:34446 Activity:very high
10/29   So I'm curious about the US Policy. Why doesn't the US simply
        leave other countries alone? I mean, the world has a lot of
        internal problems relating to food, money, civil war, etc.
        Why can't we just leave them alone? Is it all about money and
        oil? Is it about reconstruction companies? Loan corporations?
        \_ Because our country works under a set of ideals and principles
           (or at least, it's supposed to, silly me) that a lot of people look
           up to.  There is much murder & mayhem & badness in the world, and
           we are the strong kid on the playground, you know, the one with the
           power to put the bully in his place.  I am morally revolted
           and ashamed as an American about some of the things "we" do, but
           more so about much of what we leave undone.  -John
        \_ Because isolation doesn't work, stupid. Because the world
           is more interconnected than ever before. Because what
           happens in one part of the world can have adverse affects
           on the rest of us. C'mon, get with the program here buddy,
           it's a world economy, and things like the environment,
           energy, social welfare are GLOBAL problems. Were you
           asleep during World History 101?
        \_ Not to mention that we need to the rest of the world's
           resources to support our level of consumption.
           \_ This is very true.  Consumption per head in the US is higher than
              in most other industrialized countries.
        \_ Let's take post-WWII.  A lot of countries were turning Communist.
           The rationale was that, unless the U.S. did something, the whole
           world was going to turn Communist, there would be Communist
           sympathizers in the U.S., and they would foment a revolution, and
           then you wouldn't have Mom and Apple Pie anymore.
           \_ Let's take post USSR. Everyone turns to capitalism. The
              corporation has unprecedented power over the government.
              The presence of US is felt everywhere in the world,
              restricting freedom for the rulers of the other countries.
              Unless the world did something, the US would have
              no opposition and could do whatever it pleases.
              \_ you know your post would be taken a lot more seriously if
                 your writing was coherent and didn't sound like random babbling
                 \_ Made perfect sense to me!  America, fuck yeah!
              \_ freedom for the rulers? isn't freedom for the people of other
                 countries what's important here?
              \_ Yeah, we're "restricting" freedom, just like the Taliban
                 did for women and the right to education. Yeah, we made
                 Cisco put filters like the Chinese did. Yeah, we're the
                 bad guys.
        \_ Because whitey is a proto-rapist penile-centric arch bigot
           who wants to impregnate all the nubile brown women and kill all
           whales and hurt the creatures of the forest.
           Come on already you need to brush up on your Marx.
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