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10/22 Mann Coulter hit by pies while on speaking engagement:
http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/3841599/detail.html
\_ Yeah that's famous liberal tolerance of others. Esp. of
Christians, and anyone else who disagrees with them.
\_ Your pies are so BIG and TAX FREE!
\_ They had the chance to throw pies at Ann Coulter and they only
hit her in the SHOULDER? What a waste.
\_ That'll sure fix her! I'm sure millions of people are now
convinced of the wrongness of her message since two goofballs hit
her with a pie. YAY!
\_ 90+ posts just - like - yours!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1253783/posts
\_ Yes? And? Do you believe that hitting (or missing) her with
a pie has convinced anyone of the wrongness of her message?
\_ Then again, http://pornforprogress.com, watch Ann Cunter get off.
\_ Ann Cunter! Bahahahahhaaha!!! Cool!
\_ Boredcast Message from 'aaron': Fri Oct 22 09:47:37 2004
if only the pies were infected with ebola
Gotta love the sensitive liberals. -- ilyas
\_ Yeah, Compassionate Conservatives wyould have gone for anthrax.
\_ Yeah, Compassionate Conservatives would have gone for anthrax.
\_ See, the difference is, conservatives on soda don't ACTUALLY
wish the pie was covered with some horrible disease.
-- ilyas
\_ For Ann Coulter, perhaps true. For n, where n = any
liberal personality, then patently not true.
\_ Ok. Can you cite an example of a soda conservative
hoping outloud for a horrible disease-ridden pie
hitting some prominent liberal personality (or
wanting a 50-to-1 gangbang, or any of the other
lovely things aaron wished for over the years)?
-- ilyas
\_ Um, I don't think aaron meant people to take the
ebola comment that seriously.
\_ Oh, I see. It was one of aaron's little 'jokes.'
Great sense of humor. Ebola sure is funny.
Anyways, the guy I was arguing with seemed to
think (a) aaron was serious, and (b) conservatives
on soda are guilty of the same sort of thing.
I am still hoping for a rebuttal from him.
-- ilyas
\_ I'm not that guy, but you're right,
conservatives will in large part only say these
types of things using relatively anonymous
accounts on http://freerepublic.com.
\_ The freepers are not conservatives.
\_ What are they then?
\_ Ok, so just to be clear -- you are accusing
soda conservatives of being secretly just
as bad as aaron, it's just that they don't
come out openly and say it. Check. Just
so we are clear. Any proof of this, or
is this projection or assuming the other
side is just as bad or what? -- ilyas
\_ Whoa. How'd we get from "an example"
from your earlier post to "all soda
conservatives"? Nice context shift
there, buddy.
\_ No, I said "conservatives" not "soda
conservatives". Duh. And by this
I mean the subset of conservatives who
post that type of thing on freerepublic.
What part of "but you're right" did you
not understand?
\_ Freepers are not conservatives.
\_ What are they then?
\_ Soda has an interactive forum where you could
discuss aaron's wall comments with him. It is
called wall.
\_ I have no interest of discussing anything
with aaron, he is past my event horizon of
common ground. -- ilyas
\_ But you feel the need to read the wall
log, and post out of context excerpts
from it on motd? Ok.
\_ Sure. I don't want to _talk_ to
aaron. I want to hold him up as an
example of something not to do.
The only defense offered so far is
'but the freepers are just as bad!'
Kind of sad. I would be surprised
anyone on soda from the
conservative side is a freeper.
Certainly no conservative I personally
know. Look at yourselves, liberals,
do you really want to be like this?
-- ilyas
\_ No, I'd far rather be condescended
to by a sanctimonious conservative.
Thanks ilyas, I feel so much more
enlightened now.
\_ I am not a conservative. If
pointing out that wishing
harm on other human beings is
evil, and pleading them to stop
is being sanctimonious,
sign me up. -- ilyas
\_ ilyas just wants to talk to that guy who
thinks soda conservatives openly wish deadly
diseases on liberal figures
\_ I never thought aaron was serious, and I'm
sure conservatives on this forum have joked
about worse than this. Drop the higher moral
ground bit, Ilya, it doesn't suit you. -pp
\_ You're sure? Based on what? Projection?
\_ Aaron's jokes about conservatives have
consistently violent overtones. I am not
dropping any sort of morality card, I am
just staring in wonderment and worry. Are
violent jokes about ethnic groups ok? If
anything, political groups are more
important than ethnic. -- ilyas
\_ Ilya, if you have a beef with Aaron,
bring it up with Aaron. When you paint
all liberals with the same brush, be
careful because the brush paints both
ways. -pp
\_ ^Aaron's jokes about conservatives^ \
freeper's jokes about liberals
\_ Freepers != soda users.
Freepers != conservatives.
Thank you.
\_ There is a soda user who used
to consistently post freeper links.
\_ The pp specified "on this forum".
Please post specific examples.
\_ Yeah, but I'm just saying aaron's
comment did not pop up in a vacuum.
freeper folks have been running
wild (on their forums) for years
now.
\_ Freepers != soda users. You
even say "on their forums" which
is clearly different from "our"
forum here.
\_ Soda users post on Freep.
\_ I would hope that we would
expect better from aaron than
from the average freeper.
\_ I think you'd be wrong
there.
\_ So the motd is just is just
free republic for liberals?
\_ Well, maybe for one liberal.
\_ "I'm sure conservatives on this forum have
joked about worse than this." Example
please.
\_ They're scouring the motd archives right
now. Expect to see something from about
8 years ago regarding Clinton and some
STD and Monica. Or maybe not.
\_ I don't see much reason to be "sensitive" in one's comments
towards Coulter. It's Ann Coulter, come on. Have you seen that
bitch in action? It's really nothing to do with her "politics".
\_ So she is stupid, or evil, or a propagandabot. So let's
wish she gets a horrible disease and dies? You need to take
a deep breath and look at yourself. Attention
Mr. "Don't paint liberals with the same brush" above, this
is probably not aaron talking. The scary thing is that
liberals on soda don't seem to have a problem at all.
-- ilyas
\_ Your generalization of 'all soda liberals' is based on
an absurdly small sample size, and seems to be heavily
biased by your clear political bent and your obvious
siege mentality (or at least it seems that way in your
stubborn insistence to make this generalization). Try
to get over yourself a little bit and realize that the
majority of adults here don't feel the need to prove
themselves to you while still categorically NOT sharing
aaron's sentiments.
\_ When did I say 'all'? You have it in quotes but what
are you quoting exactly? -- ilyas
\_ Hey, aaron is your fringe. He may not represent you,
but it's up to you to say it, and deal with the
negatives people like aaron present for the liberal
movement. -- ilyas
\_ I don't think aaron's anger is attached to a
political attribute. It's just a high level of anger.
In other words I bet there are many with his general
political view but just too apathetic to actually
stay worked up about it.
\_ Well, I'm basically a moderate. I'm a bit south-
west on the left-right-authority-liberty compass. I think
you're overanalyzing and too arrogant to allow for the
possibility that your interpretation of this flippant
excerpt from wall might be different than that of the
person who typed it. I could also compare and contrast
aaron with motd freeper types but I'm getting bored.
\_ Let's imagine a slightly different situation, where a
prominent african american activist got pied, and
someone wished outloud that the pie had ebola in it.
Do you honestly
think that 'he was being flippant' is any sort of
defense? I don't think african americans as a group
should be treated any differently in this kind of
situation from 'conservatives,' 'jews,' 'women,'
'homosexuals' or any other meaningful group. They
are all people. Wishing them harm, or wishing to
beat them up (as aaron did at another time) is not
flippant, it's evil and hateful. This has nothing
to do with a siege mentality, the argument stays
the same even if conservatives were a 90% majority
in the US. If you want to comopare aaron with the
in the US. If you want to compare aaron with the
motd freeper types, feel free. I have yet to find
a single example of a similar kind of thing done
by soda conservatives, even anonymous ones. -- ilyas
\_ Well, one thing we seem to disagree on is whether
Coulter truly represents a meaningful group and
whether animosity towards her is based on her
membership in this group or rather her personal
behavior and attributes. I, personally, don't
have any particular dislike for most "conservatives".
If I thought some black activist was a contemptible
ass I wouldn't feel guilty for thinking so just
because ilyas would brand me a racist.
\_ But would you feel guilty wishing he would die
from the ebola virus? -- ilyas
\_ Bitch? So you have a problem with strong women? Do you
call Hillary a bitch, too? It has everything to do with
1) her politics, 2) your hatred of strong women who could
easily put you in your place.
\_ I call her a bitch because someone i know went to law
school with her and said she was a bitch there. -!pp
\_ I take it you haven't seen her in a live setting. She's
a talking-points bot with a side order of ad hominem.
I said what I mean and mean what I said so fuck off.
\_ So who's the guy who has followed up most of the subthreads with
garbage? motd users want to know! |
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| www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/3841599/detail.html Disclaimer Two men ran on stage and threw custard pies at Coulter as she was giving a speech at the University of Arizona Thursday night. In her half-hour speech, Coulter trashed Democratic presidential candidat e John Kerry, liberals and Democrats, while praising conservative studen ts who attended her speech. Her appearance was sponsored by the UA College Republicans. |
| www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1253783/posts Ann Coulter's Pie Assailants Conservative author survives creamy stage-le ft attack OCTOBER 22--Meet Phillip Edgar Smith and William Zachary Wolff . The Tucson men, both 24, were arrested last night after throwing cream pies at author Ann Coulter during her speech at the University of Arizo na. One pie connected with the conservative commentator's shoulder. Smit h, a UA student, and Wolff were charged with criminal damage, a felony, and misdemeanor counts of disorderly conduct and assault. The felony cha rge resulted from damage to a backdrop that school officials estimated a t $3000. The pie provocateurs were booked into the Pima County Adult Det ention Center--where the below mug shots were snapped--and scheduled for a court appearance today. If you're wondering about the sheets Smith an d Wolff are wearing, they're not Bedouins. As a courtesy, the Pima jaile rs use them to cover the lockup's standard-issue orange jumpsuits. View Replies To: Red Badger The one on the left looks satanic, and the one on the right looks like a stoner. If they follow this path of assault, someone will pull thos e sheet's up over their head someday.. View Replies To: Red Badger You'd think at 24 they'd have a little something more important to do. I remember throwing snowballs at cars, but not when I was 24. View Replies To: JesseJane All mug shots taken at the Pima County Jail are like that. It covers up the orange jumpsuit and protects the presumed innocence of t he little buggers. It also focuses your attention on their malevolent faces... View Replies To: Red Badger Howdy Poor homely creatures, little wonder they abhor intellectual and physical beauty. The fellow on the right appears to be either wearing a prosthetic nose, o r he is victim to quite an unfortunate accident of dermatological colora tion. View Replies To: Red Badger I just heard The Great Anne on Hannity's (surprisingly good) show... She said, "If liberals want to take the fight to the streets, they're goi ng to get their asses kicked, because we have the MEN and we have the GU NS." It seems that nobody who commits civil disobedience is willing to accept the punishment that goes along with it. But if one doesn't accept punish ment, it's not very noble, is it? View Replies To: StoneFury Anne said that some REAL MEN in the crowd busted up these little queers b efore they were rescued by the cops. I wish on all that is holy that I could have been there. View Replies To: Red Badger These two guys look like the two transvestites that climbed a tree in a p ark in New York and had sex with each other in broad daylight. View Replies To: Red Badger alright first off I dont condone anything these kids did, and i love ann, and her book. BUT, come-on that is ridiculous, why put them in jail, an d stuff. I mean seriously back in the day young kids like myself would d o stuff like that all the time to people just for fun, and never was the outcome that serious. More and more, it seems like people blow stuff wa y out of proportion. Somehow i find that hard to bielieve, and even if it did, m ake them pay for it and appologize, dont throw them in jail. last Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works. |
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