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2004/10/21 [Politics/Domestic/RepublicanMedia] UID:34262 Activity:high
10/21   Liberal comes to O'Reilly's defense, criticizes Mackris!  omg!
        http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A50050-2004Oct20.html
        \_ OMG what?  There's nothing to discuss until the facts are out.
           Right now we know nothing except her charges yet you assume he is
           a guilty pervert.  Did you assume the same of Clinton or were you
           in the "she's a whore, and you can't rape a whore!" camp on that?
           This is still the United States where you're innocent until
           *proven* guilty in a court of law.  Sheesh.
           \_ I took it a little less directly than that.  I think the guy
              was saying, "If O'Reilly is guilty, which I don't know, the
              accuser still looks pretty silly since she repeatedly put
              her self back in the position as victim voulentarily."
              -jrleek
           \_ where do you get that I "assume [O'Reilly] is a guilty pervert"?
              \_ Your description of the link.  If you didn't mean that, then
                 please accept my apology for misrepresenting your view.  That
                 is the way it honestly came across.
           \_ It's absolutely mind-bending that you can't see the deliciousness
              of a man who's made a career out of unsubstantiated ad hominem
              being himself the victim of the "guilty until proven innocent"
              phenomenom.
              \_ Because I don't see that being how he made his career.
                 \_ Ah.  And how do you see it?
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All RSS Feeds Richard Cohen The Nonsense Factor By Richard Cohen Thursday, October 21, 2004; Page A29 A psychotherapist years ago introduced me to the term "bear hug." I'm not sure anymore exactly how she defined it (and I don't think she originat ed it), but I've used it ever since to describe those situations where y ou are powerless to get out of someone's grip, causing anger and often r age. This, I think, helps explain the sexual harassment lawsuit leveled against Bill O'Reilly. The specifics of the lawsuit -- the actual complaint -- are all over the Internet, so I leave it to you to find the gamier allegations on your ow n Suffice it to say that a woman named Andrea Mackris, who once was O'R eilly's associate producer, has accused her former boss of pressuring he r to have telephone sex with him. She says O'Reilly repeatedly made thes e requests both in person and over the phone -- conversations she appare ntly recorded. Sign Up Now If the allegations are true, there is no excusing O'Reilly. He would not only be a sexual harasser but an old goat drunk with power. The picture painted by Mackris in her lawsuit is of a media figure who is so high on his fame that he thinks he is invincible. He told her he would destroy any woman who retaliated against him, she says. Still, she did not fear him so much that, after she had left O'Reilly's F ox News Channel show and gone to work at CNN, she wouldn't go to dinner with him. This happened after repeated episodes of the rawest sexual har assment, Mackris says. Yet, on April 13, 2004, "Defendant Bill O'Reilly asked Plaintiff Andrea Mackris to come watch the President's press confe rence on the television in his hotel room," Mackris's lawsuit says. Mind you, she wasn't even working for O'Reilly at t he time. "They watched the press conference without incident," the lawsuit says, and later Mackris returned to Fox and O'Reilly's show . In fact, in her telling of the tale, she got both a choice assignment and a salary increase because she was the object of O'Reilly's sexual fanta sies. It was not merely her m anifest talents as a booker that won her that raise and that choice assi gnment. Let us dispense with the boilerplate denunciation of O'Reilly as an alleg ed pig and even more boilerplate about him being the all-powerful man an d Mackris being the totally powerless woman. It also seems true, though, that Mackris either skipped classes in commo n sense when she was at Columbia University's Graduate School of Journal ism or was playing O'Reilly like the proverbial violin. Whether Mackris was aware of her power is impossible for me to say. But I can say that she never went to Fox's human resources department to comp lain about O'Reilly. She never seemed to realize that by not complaining and, more specifically, by going to dinner with him, to his hotel room and then, upon returning to Fox News, accepting assignments and a salary increase not given to others, she was hardly telling O'Reilly that she found his behavior thoroughly repugnant, as she says in her lawsuit. Initially, I gleefully read about O'Reilly's troubles because, among othe r things, the man has taken my name in vain -- and inaccurately. But it was a young female television producer who suggested I write about this because, if I may paraphrase, lawsuits such as Mackris's infantilize wom en. They portray women totally as victims, without recourse or remedy at their disposal. I can understand the rage of women subjected to the sort of sewer O'Reill y allegedly opened up on Mackris. But it is also wrong for a woman to be even a bit complicit and then act as if she played no role whatsoever in the oldest game known t o mankind.