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10/14 Did anyone catch Bush saying "You know, it's pointless/unreliable/
whatever to quote outside... oh, never mind. Let me quote blablabla".
That was so funny. His notes have to be prepared by someone else.
[contentless wind removed]
\_ BUSH: In all due respect, I'm not so sure it's credible to quote
leading news organizations about -- oh, never mind. Anyway, let me
quote the Lewin report. [http://csua.org/u/9he]
\_ They repeated my claims that Saddam had WMD, so you can see how
unreliable the mainstream press is.
\_ i do find it amusing that bush keeps critisizing kerry
for believing his iraq lies
\_ He believed me, now he doesn't. He's a flip-flopper.
We need a president who has the courage to believe his
own lies in the face of overwhelming evidence.
\_ Thank you! I couldn't have said it better myself!
\_ They were not lies. Every Senator, Congressman, President
Clinton, his staff, Dems, Reps, everyone, repeated the
exact accusations at one time or another. That you have
a selective memory on this issue indicates self-delusion.
\_ Wow, you know what everyone in the world said. You must
have a super big brain. Funny, I remember posting in
the motd that SH probably did not have any WMD. My
memory must be faulty. As for the self-delusional
charge, please look up the psychological term
"projection." Here is what Barbara Lee really had
to say about SH and WMD:
http://www.counterpunch.org/lee0930.html
I defy you to find one quote where she claimed that
he had them.
\_ Yes, I laughed out loud. "not so sure it's credible to quote
leading news organizations about -- oh, never mind".
[contentless wind removed]
\_ i'm sorry, but 'wc -l /etc/motd.public' still shows more than 0
\_ Yah, sorry -- it tends to grow and repopulate at a rate which is hard
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| www.counterpunch.org/lee0930.html CounterPunch September 30, 2002 Alternatives to War by REP. BARBARA LEE Our nation is today on the verge of going to war against Iraq. In a rush to launch a first strike, we risk destabilizing the Middle East and sett ing an international precedent that could come back to haunt us all. Pre sident Bush's doctrine of pre-emption violates international law, the ch arter of the United Nations and our own long-term security interests. It forecloses alternatives to war before we have even tried to pursue them . The president has submitted a resolution to Congress seeking a proverbial blank check to wage war against Iraq using "all means." Just two weeks ago, he went to the United Nations and called on that organization to pr ove its relevancy by ensuring Iraq's disarmament. But he has undermined the United Nation's chances to succeed, first by issuing it an ultimatum and now by asking Congress for a use-of-force resolution that distorts the language of the UN charter, supports a pre-emptive strike by the U nited States and ignores the grave security risks posed by such an appro ach. The president has told us that we must attack Iraq because our nation is in imminent danger from Saddam Hussein. We have received no proof of imm ediate danger, and scant evidence that Iraq has the means or intent to u se weapons of mass destruction against us. We have not been told why the danger is greater today than it was a year or two ago or why we must ru sh to war rather than pursuing other options. We have not given the Unit ed Nations time to try to reach diplomatic solutions. We do know that virtually all of our allies are strongly opposed to a fir st strike by the United States. Statesmen such as Kofi Annan and Nelson Mandela have beseeched us to turn away from this disastrous course. The majority of the world is opposed to forced regime change. We all agree that the world would be better off without Hussein in power, but we would be better off still if we eliminate weapons of mass destru ction from the entire world. President Bush has asked Congress to provide him with "all means that he determines to be appropriate including force" to enforce UN Security C ouncil resolutions against Iraq. This resolution is based on the false a ssumption that we have no other options; it also falls short of a fundam ental constitutional standard -- an actual declaration of war. Furthermo re, the resolution is misleading: While it includes language from the U N charter acknowledging the right to national self-defense, it delibera tely omits the charter's next crucial words: "if an armed attack occurs against a member of the United Nations." The desire to rush to war glides over the tremendous costs and risks invo lved, including the dangers for American servicemen and women and for Ir aqi civilians, as well as the potential destabilization of the Middle Ea st. War would likely derail any chance at a Palestinian-Israeli agreemen t, while trampling international law and UN principles and setting a t errible international precedent. Moreover, it would divert some $200 billion from our own profound domestic needs, including health care, prescription drugs, educ ation and homeland security. For these reasons, I have introduced House Concurrent Re solution 473, which urges the United States to re-engage the diplomatic process and stresses our government's commitment to the UN inspections process. Containment and inspections have worked and can work in the fu ture. President Bush called on the United Nations to assume its responsibilitie s I call on the United States to assume ours by working with the United Nations to ensure that Iraq is not developing weapons of mass destructi on by utilizing mechanisms such as the resumption of arms inspections, n egotiation, regional cooperation and other diplomatic means. Barbara Lee, D-Oakland, has represented the East Bay in Congress since 19 98. She has voted against using force in international conflicts, at lea st twice as a lone dissenter -- in last year's anti-terrorist authorizat ion and in 1999, when the House approved the bombing of Serbia. New Print Edition of CounterPunch Available Exclusively to Subscribers: * Hunting Commie Perverts: The Scarlet Professor * DC's Best Political Mind; Remember, the CounterPunch website is supported exclusively by subscriber s to our newsletter. Our worldwide web audience is soaring , with about seven million hits a month now. This is inspiring, but the work involved also compels us to remind you more urgently than ever to subscribe and/ or make a (tax deductible) donation if you can afford it. |