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2004/10/12 [Politics/Domestic/Election, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:34053 Activity:insanely high
10/12   Heh, Teresa Heintz pays 15% in taxes.  Hehehe.  Where's the outrage?
                       \_ Heinz
        \_ Outrage at the Republican-written tax system?  There's plenty.
        \_ Our tax system favors the uber-rich.  She's uber-rich.  So is
           John Kerry.  So are Bush and Cheney, although not quite to the
           same degree.  They're all rich fucking bastards and getting more
           rich by the minute.  This election is all about "pick your favorite
           rich bastard."  I'll take the one that seems like he can actually
           think coherently, thanks.
           \_ also, Teresa Heintz is the *recipient* of the outrageous Bush
              tax cuts.  Bush is the source.  He'd be a bastard even if he
              paid his fair share.
              \_ Heinz and Kerry put their money into tax shelters.  So raising
                 their marginal rate won't help anything.  Kerry's whining is
                 nothing more than class warfare.
                 \_ Whining is not equal to warfare. Except to an idiot
                    libertarian serial overexaggerator.
           \_ Bush has ~$10M.  Kerry/Heinz have ~$1000M.  Two orders of
              magnitude make quite a difference.
              \_ So the rich are EVIIIIIIILLLL if you disagree with them?
                 \_ I don't see any problem with people being rich.  Just
                    pointing out that Heinz/Kerry are two orders of magnitude
                    more rich than Bush.  Saying they're all the same is
                    ridiculous.
                    \_ You have no idea how rich bush actually is..
           \_ You don't *have* to vote for either of them. Vote for psb!
        \_ That's why there's a need to remove the tax break for rich!
           \_ No.  We should all be paying no more than Mrs. Heinz.
                \_ Her 17% is more than you make in your lifetime!
        \_ Haven't you noticed?  The Dem motto is "High taxes for everyone!
           (but me!)"  Also See "Kennedy"
        \_ Nader in 2004!  The only candidate with an established history of
           being *for* the common man and working hard *against* large
           corporations!  -Nader'04
           \_ To quote James Carville, I wouldn't piss down Nader's neck if his
                             \_ AKA Gollum.
                                \_ Huh?
                                   \_ Carville looks like he was beaten with
                                      the ugly stick.
                                      \_ That's rich coming from a FAT SYSADMIN!
                                         \_ You have no idea who posted this.
                                            \_ Doesn't matter.  FAT SYSADMINS
                                               are the STANDARD!
              chest was on fire.
           \_ Not to meantion against the common mans' jobs at said large
              corporations!
        \_ 8 out of 10 richest Congressmen are democrats.  What a surprise.
           The party of the little people indeed.
           \_ Your wealth does not make you for or against a particular class,
              your positions do.  Remind me again which party is in favor of
              taxing dividend income, the Head Start program, socialized
              medicine, and raising the minimum wage.
              \_ However, it is easier to generous with your wealth when you
                 already have so much of it.  Given great wealth, I would
                 hope that most of us would be decent enough to want to give
                 back to society, through either private donation or greater
                 taxation.  The problem is that most of us aren't blessed
                 with great wealth, and those incremental dollars that may
                 not mean much to a Kennedy or a Pelosi might be more
                 meaningful to us.
           \_ sourceP
              \_ #t
              \_ Not the previous poster, and from a highly unreliable
                 source, but http://vikingphoenix.com/public/docs/50rich.txt .
                 7 of top 10 richest member of congress are Democrats, and
                 I am too lazy to filter for just house members.
                 \_ And Kerry's money is actually his wife's as per their
                    prenup. So, it's actually 6-4.
                    \_ I think it's silly to argue over which party have more
                       wealthy members in the Congress.  However, I am a fan
                       of fairness and honesty.  If you use the above-posted
                       list, and you drop Kerry from the number 1 spot, then
                       you end up with 3 tied for the 10th spot, 1 R and 2 D's.
                       So the tally would be 8D-4R.  I suppose that's still
                       better than 7D-3R.
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Welcome Back Congress: Wealth Watch Congressional Megabuck Members:Top Five In Roll Call Fifty Are Worth $50 Million or More 1 Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass)* $760 million Senator's 1994 disclosure form shows assets of $50,000 to $100,000, with liabilities of $65,000 to $180,000, making him one of least wealthy Members; new bride's holdings, however, estimated at $760 million by Forbes magazine; wealth derives from inheritance from late husband John Heinz, who topped our original Roll Call 50 listing in 1990 and was the great-grandson of ketchup and food product magnate; according to Forbes, Mrs Heinz sold some 135 million shares of stock in 1995 to diversify holdings. Amory Houghton (R-NY) * $350 million You'll find Houghton in the family section ofthe Forbes 400, but we list him separately because he controls family trusts. Forbes puts family fortune at around $530 million up from last year's assessment of $470 million; Amo's namesake founded Corning Glass Works in 1851, manufacturing glass casings for Thomas Edison's light bulbs; House financial disclosure form sets wealth at only around $10 million. Herbert Kohl (D-Wis) * $250 million Made his money in family grocery business; owns Milwaukee Bucks basketball team as well as real estate interests, such as shopping centers and office buildings in Milwaukee; to win election in 1988, spent nearly $7 for every vote he received; in 1994, election cost him just over $7 per vote (perhaps inflation is to blame); Jay Rockefeller (D-WVa) * $200 million Great-grandfather, John D Rockefeller, world's first billionaire; JD IV, known as "Jay," served as West Virginia governor; DNC finance chairman, raised millions for party by joking about his wealth at fundraisers; Forbes estimates family fortune worth more than $6 billion; Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif) * $50 million Diversified holdings with husband Richard Blum; most are in his name, but she is beneficiary of $1 million-plus Bertram Feinstein Trust, which includes 50 percent interest in Carlton Hotel Properties of San Francisco; Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ) * $40 million Founder of ADP data processing firm, with 16,000 employees; financial disclosure for 1994 sets wealth at nearly $4 million; holdings include stock in ADP and two blind trusts in excess of $1 million; Edward Kennedy (D-Mass) * $35 million Kennedy's father, Joseph Patrick Kennedy, was Boston bank president by age 25; founded political and financial dynasty, made millions in liquor business; family inheritance no longer makes Forbes list, which starts at $340 million; in 1990, Forbes estimate of Kennedy fortune was $850 million; holdings, such as Chicago Merchandise Martand Apparel Center, other real estate, oil and gas interests, have been losing value; Ted reports holdings of just over $3 million on latest financial disclosure report, but various blind trusts generate annual income of at least $400,000. 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Bill Frist (R-Tenn) * $20 million Transplant surgeon is second wealthiest freshman in 104th Congress; disclosure form lists nearly $10 million in assets, but Tennessee sources say holdings in Hospital Corp. of America, which was founded by his brother, are worth more; Chuck Robb (D-Va) * $20 million Former lawyer, governor, Vietnam vet, and White House Marine guard has millions in banking and land holdings; married to Lynda Bird Johnson, heiress of LBJ-Lady Bird broadcast fortune; most recent disclosure form reports more than $11 million; reaped more than $1 million in capital gains and interest from the LBJ Holding Company. real estate, timber, and other investment holdings make up widely diversified portfolio started with inherited wealth; Jane Harman (D-Calif) * $15 million Wife of Sidney Harman, founder of Fortune 500 electronics company, Harman International Industries, which manufactures high-end stereo equipment; her common stock in the company worth well over $1 million; has other holdings in various stocks, Treasury bills, real estate partnerships, and four separate trusts; Dick Chrysler (R-Mich) * $15 million An automotive executive, but not for the company that bears his name; John Glenn (D-Ohio) * $13 million Former astronaut owns interest in two Holiday Inns; most of his money in two blind trusts, hard to determine actual amount; reports holdings of at least $27 million on disclosure form. 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Jimmy Quillen (R-Tenn) * $8 million Extensive stocks and bonds (Kodak, various utilities); Sid Yates (D-Ill) * $7 million Lawyer, has served in Congress more than 40 years; real estate holdings, Treasury notes, and PublicHousing Authority Bonds (which he trades with some frequency) make up a good portion of wealth; also in partnership that owns two Kentucky shopping centers; Nita Lowey (D-NY) * $7 million Former New York state official married to lawyer; Bob Graham (D-Fla) * $6 million Father worked way up from poverty to become wealthy dairy farmer and real estate investor; after graduating Harvard Law School, young Bob joined dad in real estate, helped develop entire town of Miami Lakes, Fla; stepbrother was late publisher of Washington Post, Phil Graham; sold real estate in 1994 while buying stock in Merck, Microsoft, Home Depot; stocks, municipal bonds, and farm add up to more than $3 million on most recent disclosure form. 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