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2004/10/12 [Reference/Religion] UID:34049 Activity:high
10/11   Why is it that some states insist on using public resources for
        religious purposes and feel that they have the right to do so?
        http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/10/12/10.commandments.ap/index.html
        \_ Why does Senator Byrd (motto: if you're good enough for the Klan
           you're good enough for the Dems) read the Bible on the Senate floor
           in protest of working on Sunday?  Where's the ACLU when you need
           them?
           \_ Dude, the man apologized for joining the Klan and denounced
              them.  Check out the Terry Gross/Fresh Air interview.  If you're
              going to bag on the man, bag on something real.
        \_ you should read up NPR's story on how immigrant view the role
           of religion in USA.  As an immigrant myself, I can tell you the
           pressure to conform to Christianity and/or accepting Christian
           values is enormous.  In many way, USA's tolerance toward other
           religious value was less than  Roman Empire and Ottoman Empire.
           \_ Boo hoo.  What exactly is wrong with Christian values?  Is
              is ok to murder people in your culture?  Fuck your neighbor's
              wife?  Exactly what is your country of origin and what makes
              your values superior to Judeo-Christian values?  Do you know
              *anything* about the Roman Empire?  Their entire deal was all
              about Romanizing conquered peoples so that only a few generations
              later they saw themselves not as whatever they once were but as
              Romans.
              \_ "Christian Values" vary a great amount between Christian
                  groups.  Some like humility, compassion to the poor, the
                  golden rule, etc are great.  It's that some Christians choose
                  to emphasive things like wives submit to their husbands,
                  gays should be killed, premarital sex is evil, convert the
                  heathens...
           \_ are you sure that pressure isn't coming from other members
              of your immigrant community?  i was born and raised in the
              US as an athiest, and have never felt any pressure to
              "conform" to christian religion or culture.  there are about
              30 million Americans who list their religion as "none" and
              probably another three million or so jews, a couple million
              muslims, and who knows how many in weird american cult
              religions like scientology or mormonism.  sure, there's a
              christian majority, but i think it's an exageration to call
              the US a christian country.
           \_ As an immigrant you should've expected that since the US
              is a Western country. Its socio-economics is deeply rooted
              in protestant values, after all it was founded by extremist
              protestants to start off with. You would feel the same had
              you immigrated into any part of Europe. You can't expect to
              immigrate and NOT have to adopt the customs of the country
              you are immigrating to. The fact that the US has many
              enclaves of minorities in which they can feel comfortable in
              is almost unique in the world. If you had actually lived in
              Europe or any other western country you would realize how
              lucky we actually are. If you think it's bad here, you'd be
              shocked in how unnaccepting other countries are (like France).
           \_ Huh?  Have we had Christians torn apart by lions in circuses
              like in the Roman Empire?  Ottoman Empire tolerant?!  Is
              that why they butchered all those Armenians?
              \_ it's an NPR thing.  i loathe NPR, but since some businesses
                 i like to go to insist on playing it, I'm familiar with
                 their "Ottoman Empire was a beacon of tolerance" meme.
                 \_ What in holy batshit are you smoking boy?  I listen to NPR
                    every day and I've never heard anything like this.  Maybe
                    you should stop snorting high-test ibogaine up your
                    nose, take those cotton balls out of your ears, and go
                    shoot a .44 magnum at a couple of jackrabbits.  I swear
                    it will make you feel better.
                    \_ I suppose there is a finite probability that NPR only
                       plays pompous anti-american and anti-isreal propoganda
                       for about 15 minutes a week and it always just happens
                       to correspond to when I hear it...I just think it's
                       a pretty small probablity.
                       \_ Like I said, you really need to work off that
                          paranoia, good buddy.  Turn off Rush Limbaugh and
                          go shoot some jackrabbits.  If NPR is "anti-American"
                          propaganda, I guess you consider Patrick Buchanan
                          to be a "moderate," yes?  Jackrabbits, son.  .44
                          magnum.  And when you've killed enough jackrabbits,
                          consider blowing your own head off so we don't have
                          to listen to your raving.
                          \_ Sorry, but regaurdless of what NPR does
                             or does not broadcast, you're an idiot. -!pp
                             \_ Nope, sorry, I'm an intelligent person
                                entertaining himself with thoughts of
                                the blazing Southwestern sky, frightened
                                jackrabbits, and Mr. Raving Winger's exploded
                                brains all over the concrete.  You're an idiot
                                for taking something on the motd at face
                                value.
                                \_ Right, I never said I took it at face
                                   value.  Not all jokes are funny, some are
                                   just dumb.  Like the above.
                    \_ It won't do anything for the rabbits.  Think of the
                       rabbits!
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WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Supreme Court said Tuesday it will take up the con stitutionality of Ten Commandments displays on government land and build ings, a surprise announcement that puts justices in the middle of a poli tically sensitive issue. Justices have repeatedly refused to revisit issues raised by their 1980 d ecision that banned the posting of copies of the Ten Commandments in pub lic school classrooms. In the meantime, lower courts have reached a hodgepodge of conflicting ru lings that allow displays in some instances but not in others. The high court will hear an appeal early next year involving displays in Kentucky and Texas. In the Texas case, the justices will decide if a Ten Commandments monumen t on the state Capitol grounds is an unconstitutional attempt to establi sh state-sponsored religion. A homeless man, Thomas Van Orden, lost his lawsuit to have the 6-foot tal l red granite removed. The Fraternal Order of Eagles donated the monumen t to the state in 1961. The group gave scores of similar monuments to Am erican towns during the 1950's and '60's, and those have been the subjec t of multiple court fights. Separately, they will consider whether a lower court wrongly barred the p osting of the Ten Commandments in Kentucky courthouses. McCreary and Pulaski county officials hung framed copies of the Ten Comma ndments in their courthouses and later added other documents, such as th e Magna Charter and Declaration of Independence, after the display was c hallenged. The Ten Commandments contain both religious and secular directives, inclu ding the familiar proscriptions on stealing, killing and adultery. The Constitution bars any state "establishment" of religion. That means t he government cannot promote religion in general, or favor one faith ove r another.