10/11 Why is it that some states insist on using public resources for
religious purposes and feel that they have the right to do so?
http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/10/12/10.commandments.ap/index.html
\_ Why does Senator Byrd (motto: if you're good enough for the Klan
you're good enough for the Dems) read the Bible on the Senate floor
in protest of working on Sunday? Where's the ACLU when you need
them?
\_ Dude, the man apologized for joining the Klan and denounced
them. Check out the Terry Gross/Fresh Air interview. If you're
going to bag on the man, bag on something real.
\_ you should read up NPR's story on how immigrant view the role
of religion in USA. As an immigrant myself, I can tell you the
pressure to conform to Christianity and/or accepting Christian
values is enormous. In many way, USA's tolerance toward other
religious value was less than Roman Empire and Ottoman Empire.
\_ Boo hoo. What exactly is wrong with Christian values? Is
is ok to murder people in your culture? Fuck your neighbor's
wife? Exactly what is your country of origin and what makes
your values superior to Judeo-Christian values? Do you know
*anything* about the Roman Empire? Their entire deal was all
about Romanizing conquered peoples so that only a few generations
later they saw themselves not as whatever they once were but as
Romans.
\_ "Christian Values" vary a great amount between Christian
groups. Some like humility, compassion to the poor, the
golden rule, etc are great. It's that some Christians choose
to emphasive things like wives submit to their husbands,
gays should be killed, premarital sex is evil, convert the
heathens...
\_ are you sure that pressure isn't coming from other members
of your immigrant community? i was born and raised in the
US as an athiest, and have never felt any pressure to
"conform" to christian religion or culture. there are about
30 million Americans who list their religion as "none" and
probably another three million or so jews, a couple million
muslims, and who knows how many in weird american cult
religions like scientology or mormonism. sure, there's a
christian majority, but i think it's an exageration to call
the US a christian country.
\_ As an immigrant you should've expected that since the US
is a Western country. Its socio-economics is deeply rooted
in protestant values, after all it was founded by extremist
protestants to start off with. You would feel the same had
you immigrated into any part of Europe. You can't expect to
immigrate and NOT have to adopt the customs of the country
you are immigrating to. The fact that the US has many
enclaves of minorities in which they can feel comfortable in
is almost unique in the world. If you had actually lived in
Europe or any other western country you would realize how
lucky we actually are. If you think it's bad here, you'd be
shocked in how unnaccepting other countries are (like France).
\_ Huh? Have we had Christians torn apart by lions in circuses
like in the Roman Empire? Ottoman Empire tolerant?! Is
that why they butchered all those Armenians?
\_ it's an NPR thing. i loathe NPR, but since some businesses
i like to go to insist on playing it, I'm familiar with
their "Ottoman Empire was a beacon of tolerance" meme.
\_ What in holy batshit are you smoking boy? I listen to NPR
every day and I've never heard anything like this. Maybe
you should stop snorting high-test ibogaine up your
nose, take those cotton balls out of your ears, and go
shoot a .44 magnum at a couple of jackrabbits. I swear
it will make you feel better.
\_ I suppose there is a finite probability that NPR only
plays pompous anti-american and anti-isreal propoganda
for about 15 minutes a week and it always just happens
to correspond to when I hear it...I just think it's
a pretty small probablity.
\_ Like I said, you really need to work off that
paranoia, good buddy. Turn off Rush Limbaugh and
go shoot some jackrabbits. If NPR is "anti-American"
propaganda, I guess you consider Patrick Buchanan
to be a "moderate," yes? Jackrabbits, son. .44
magnum. And when you've killed enough jackrabbits,
consider blowing your own head off so we don't have
to listen to your raving.
\_ Sorry, but regaurdless of what NPR does
or does not broadcast, you're an idiot. -!pp
\_ Nope, sorry, I'm an intelligent person
entertaining himself with thoughts of
the blazing Southwestern sky, frightened
jackrabbits, and Mr. Raving Winger's exploded
brains all over the concrete. You're an idiot
for taking something on the motd at face
value.
\_ Right, I never said I took it at face
value. Not all jokes are funny, some are
just dumb. Like the above.
\_ It won't do anything for the rabbits. Think of the
rabbits! |