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2004/10/11 [Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:34025 Activity:moderate
10/11   Injured, angry, determined, Swiftees unite to fight Kerry
        http://www.washtimes.com/national/20041011-123955-3725r.htm
        \_ Awww.  Reality's a bitch, huh?  My heart bleeds for them.  Good
           thing the Moonie Times and Sinclair broadcasting are still around
           to promote their agenda... because everyone else has stopped
           listening.
           \_ Your media tried for a long time to ignore them and is doing
              it again.  Nothing new about that.  Your media never listened
              in the first place.  I'll take the word of 250 soldiers over
              one politician anyday.
              \_ 250 soldiers who say what?  That they resented the anti-war
                 movement?  No credible source has come forth saying that
                 Kerry did anything dishonorable during his service.  Get over
                 it already.
              \_ "Your media?" Do you mean the American media? They spent
                 far too much time on it in the first place. You will not
                 be able to ressurect that 30 year old zombie, everyone
                 has already had their say. Why don't you want to talk about
                 issues that matter to America today: Iraq, the economy,
                 health care, the war on terror? Is it perhaps because
                 with the possible exception of the latter, they are all
                 losers for Bush? What are you going to do on Nov 3 after
                 your hero loses?
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Past the rice paddies and shacks, small fires are burning by the shoreline as Lt. John H Davi s' 50-foot aluminum swift boat PCF 19 makes its routine patrol throu gh the reeds. In a split second, rocket fire shatters the silence, and through a pl ume of oily smoke, the boat sinks to the river's bottom. But the scars of war are nothing compared to the demons that wak e him from his sleep, leaving him drenched in sweat and trembling with f ear. "My latest nightmare was that I was pulling my crew out of the water. Davis has come to Washington at his own expense, along with 89 ot her Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, to tape the eighth 60-second TV spot questioning Sen. Others, former prisoners of war, walk stiffly, a result of being bound and tortured. Snow-haired Bud Day, a 79-year-old former POW, stands at attention. H e is wearing a brown leather flight jacket befitting an Air Force major, complemented by the Medal of Honor around his neck. The silver-haired men in natty ties, navy blazers and spit-shined s hoes, their faces bronzed with Ben Nye matte foundation ("tan suede") line up under the hot lights in the cavernous soundstage at Atlantic Vid eo on Massachusetts Avenue. One by one, they share their stories with the cameras and defend thei r honor. These Swiftees, at times jocular (breaking into "Row, row, row your b oat") and at other times on the verge of tears, are angry and frustrated . Not only because they say Mr Kerry has lied about his service and ref uses to sign the form that releases his military records to the public, but because 30 years ago, the candidate threw away his medals and called his fellow servicemen murderers, rapists, baby killers and cowards. The weekend began with a dinner at the Key Bridge Marriott on Friday night, attended by a wealthy backer from Texas, T Boone Pickens. So far, they have raised more than $13 million more than $4 million of which was contributed through their Internet site and plan to step up their assault on the Democratic presidential candidate in the final weeks of the campaign. They raised an additional $25 million over the w eekend and plan to spend $5 million more by Election Day. The weekend shoot produced enough footage for two or three more ads, which the Swiftees plan to run starting Thursday in Pennsylvania and Ohi o and in a few heavily military areas of Florida. Campaign analysts say the Swiftees have been highly effective in planting doubts about Mr Ker ry's fitness for office. Vernon Smith, a 74-year-old Swiftee from Virginia Beach, didn't see a ny reason to come forward before, but when he read "Tour of Duty," Mr K erry's account of his Vietnam service as written by historian Douglas Br inkley, he got angry. 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