10/8 Holy SHIT Bush is actually doing pretty well, did he rehearse or
something? In addition, he's taking notes!!! He didn't do that
last time. SHIT.
\_ They gave him back his cocaine.
\_ Uh, well? Maybe on the "internets." Did you see his Dean Scream
moment?
\_ *SCOWL*
\_ Kerry mistakes so far, add if you wish:
1) "I'm a lawyer too" (most ppl hate lawyers)
\_ I don't think this was a mistake
\_ First thing we do is kill all the lawyers.
2) "Join me to defeat ppl who make over $200,000"
(bad bad bad, they control YOUR life)
\_ my combined income is, in fact, over $200,000. I don't
like Bush, but I like my nice house and I enjoy co-owning
my Piper Arrow. That is why I'm voting for Bush.
\_ hmm, so you are really dying for that $2000 taxcut you get
with bush huh with your $200k income?
"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of
government. It can only exist until the voters
discover that they can vote themselves money from the
public treasure. From that moment on the majority
always votes for the candidates promising the most
money from the public treasury, with the result that a
democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy
followed by a dictatorship."
\_ I'm glad you believe that! Now take a history lesson
\_ My wallet isn't your public treasure, thanks. I'm not
the piper guy.
\_ Some money has to come out of someone's wallet for
the "public treasure". You just don't want it to be
you, because it's not *fair* to tax people more just
because they can afford more. So horribly unfair.
\_ Ever hear of equality? I know its a new and
radical concept, but perhaps you might want
to consider it. If all citizens are equal
then they should all pay an equal percentage
of their income as taxes. Why should I have
have to pay a higher tax rate just b/c my
income is higher, when all I did was study
hard, work late nights to get to a better
job, and mr. pot smoking slacker english
major drank his way through school and
now can't get a job and expects me to pay
more so that he can live off of my hard
work. That is BS.
\_ What if that English major wins the lottery,
inherits money, or happens to get a good job
through nepotism? What if I worked hard like
you did and yet make less money through
choice or bad luck? I am all for a flat tax,
but your argument is stupid. Some rich
people work hard. Some don't. Same as the poor.
\_ In general, barring lottery winners etc.
people getting paid more are doing more
economically valuable work. If you make
less money through choice then why do you
want others to make up the difference?
And let's say in theory we do the same type
of work, but you work half as hard and get
half the income. Why should your tax rate
be different for the year?
\_ Easily answered: "gimme! gimme! gimme!"
\_ simple numbers game, piss off 2% of the populus and curry the
favor of 98%, that doesn't make sense to you?
\_ no but under Kerry I'll have to pay a LOT more tax. No thx.
\_ Someone has to pay for all of this invading, you're
just going back to the Clinton levels
\_ Which were too high.
3) "Bush's [nonexisting] lumber company"
\_ Bush DOES have timber company...
http://www.factcheck.org/article.aspx@DocID=265
\_ good find.
******************* Partisan Tools Below This Line *********************
\_ Is it partisan to say Bush sounded even stupider in the
second debate?
\- it's not partisan, it is foolish. --psb
\_ Are you saying it is foolish because Bush did not
sound even stupider; or because the statement
invites scorn; or both?
\_ Did you even watch the debate last night?
\_ Bush started strong but he is fading fast
\_ Did you watch the same debate? Wishful thinking? Faint hope?
\_ That was the way it went in the first debate, too.
\_ And you didn't notice any difference between his first and
last night's efforts? Ok.... whatever.....
\_ Bush creamed Kerry this time.
\_ Dubya was even more stupid this time. You don't become less
wrong by yelling it louder.
\_ Would you like the pink or the blue kool aid?
\_ apparently that's not how people outside of California
think. My officemate from Indiana (very pro Bush) shouts
loudly when 1) he feels that he has a strong point
2) when he doesn't want to hear from you again.
People outside of California seem to have different
social protocols, and shouting works for them.
\_ your co-worker from Indiana is pretty stupid
\_ that may be so, but people like him are
all over the United States, voting for Bush.
\_ True. And liberals all across the U.S. are asking
"Why isn't Kerry whooping this chimp?"
\_ I know why, and you should too, if you have been
paying attention. -- ilyas
\-My opinion on the two people at the top of
the ticket is well known but i have to say that
Melman fellow from BUSHCO is 100x better than
mary beth cahill. it was sort of sad that charlie
rose basically gave the bush campiagn a lot more
free airtime to "clarify" [and it was well done]
than kerry's spokespeson. it was lame of kerry
co to let bushco go last and get a lot more time.
they need to be more ruthless on "details" like
this. --psb
\_ Charlie Rose? Who watched *that*?
\_ Yes, I know why. People are dumb. Dubya and his
handlers know how to talk to dumb people, as he is
himself: dumb. Granted there are smart
Republicans out there, but they don't form the
majority of those voting for Dubya.
Clinton: "When people think, Democrats win."
\_ I'm voting for Dubya and I'm dumb! Woot! We
is all jus' whitey craker red neck hiks on thiz
side uh da ile! You just keep telling yourself
that if it makes you feel better about last
night. I prefer to always assume my opposition
is not moronic and not take things for granted
like you do with your weak labelling.
\_ when people start thinking, we'll democratize
both parties so that party bosses don't control
every political position where one party
controls a safe majority.
\_ When people who profess to care actually
bother to vote then Democrats would win,
too.
\_ Isn't the DNC asking for volunteers to
take an hour or two to make get-out-the-vote
phone calls on election day? I think if
you do have spare time, this could make
a big difference.
\_ The election is done. Everyone already
know who they'll vote for. Everyone who
is going to show is already going to show.
The only thing we don't yet know is which
polls are more accurate than others.
Anyway, when I see "political call" show
on my caller ID, I don't pick up. I
doubt any apathetic person would either. |
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