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10/6    John Edwards continued the Democratic ticket's winning streak in
        Tuesday night's vice presidential debate. He was judged the winner by
        uncommitted voters who watched the debate, just as John Kerry was last
        week. Forty-one percent of these uncommitted debate watchers said
        Edwards won the encounter, while 28 percent chose Vice President Dick
        Cheney. Another 31 percent thought it was a tie.
        http://csua.org/u/9ce
        \_ Wow.  This was not the impression of any of the people I talked with
           tonight, all of whom thought that Edwards came off as a moron.  All
           these people were very liberal, yet a number of them suggested that
           after this debate they'd prefer a Kerry/Cheney ticket.  This despite
           thinking that Cheney's an evil bastard.
           \_ After tonight's debate, I more thought Cheney was wrong in
              addition to being evil.  Stylewise, Cheney had strengths as well
              as Edwards, and I say Edwards edged him out on clarity.
              Content-wise, Edwards won.  Gaffe-wise, Cheney won with not any
              of the nervous mistakes as Edwards made, which is what I think
              your friends were thinking of.  Keep in mind that Dubya's gaffes
              pointed more to his intellectual capacity than Edward's mistakes
              to his lack of experience talking with Cheney. -liberal
        \_ Yeah, above poster is right.  Your guy got pwned.  Own up!
           \_ I was the "own up" guy in the Dubya/Kerry debate.  I won't say
              own up on this one, since it wasn't the embarrassment that the
              first debate was.
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John Edwards indulges in a victorious gesture at a post-debate rally in C leveland. Other than that exchange, neither candidate did very well while atta cking the other directly. Do Cheney (above, at his post debate rally) and Edwards have the ability to be an effective president? Among uncommitted voters, 59% said Cheney has what it takes; He was judged the winner by uncom mitted voters who watched the debate, just as John Kerry was last week. Forty-one percent of these uncommitted debate watchers said Edwards won t he encounter, while 28 percent chose Vice President Dick Cheney. Immediately after the debate, CBS News interviewed a nationally represent ative sample of 178 debate watchers assembled by Knowledge Networks who were uncommitted voters voters who are either undecided about who to vot e for or who have a preference but say they could still change their min ds. Both men and women gave the win to Edwards, with 42 percent of the women giving the edge to the Democrat. Among men, 40 percent thought Edwards was the winner, while 32 percent picked Cheney. Edwards also greatly improved his standing among the uncommitted voters. Nearly half of the uncommitted voters sa id their opinion of Edwards has changed for the better as a result of th e debate. As for the vice president, 32 percent said that their image of Cheney cha nged for the better, while 15 percent said their opinion of Cheney worse ned. Asked whether Cheney and Edwards have the ability to become an effective president, 59 percent of uncommitted voters said Cheney has what it take s, and 56 percent said the same of Edwards. The North Carolina senator is better liked than the vice president, with 82 percent of the men and 72 percent of the women saying they would like Edwards personally. Half of both the men and the women said Cheney was likeable. Eighty-two percent said Edwards shares their priorities for the country, nearly twice the number who said this about Cheney. The vice president d id receive higher scores on leadership qualities, but majorities said bo th candidates had strong qualities of leadership. Most (56 percent) of the uncommitted voters also said the vice-presidenti al candidates would influence their vote for president in November. Anot her 43 percent said the vice-presidential candidates would not affect th eir vote. Uncommitted voters in the poll graded the candidates with a sliding scale using remote controls. In this real-time evaluation of the debate, Edwa rds scored well when he talked about the administration's failure to cap ture Osama bin Laden, and in discussing the war in Iraq. Halliburton and th at companys dealings with Iran, he registered very high approval with un committed voters. Other than that exchange, neither candidate did especi ally well when they attacked each other directly. This CBS News poll was conducted online by Knowledge Networks among a nat ionwide random sample of 178 uncommitted voters voters who dont yet know who they will vote for, or who have chosen a candidate but may still ch ange their minds who have agreed to watch the debate. Knowledge Networks , a Silicon Valley company, conducted the poll among a sample of adult m embers of its household panel, a nationally representative sample given access to the Internet via Web TV. This is a scientifically representative poll of undecided voters reaction to the presidential debate. The margin of sampling error could be plus or minus 7 percentage points for results based on the entire sample. Nearly half of about 200 surveyed during the 2004 Vice Presidential d ebate responded more favorably to Sen. CBS News' Anthony M ason and Bob Schieffer give their take on the numbers. Debating the proposed amendment to the Constitution banning gay marri age, John Edwards said that it was 'unnecessary,' said America needs to be united and applauded the Cheney family. John Edwards hammered Dick Cheney about his place within the Hallibu rton hierarchy and suggested that Halliburton is being allowed to skirt regulations through possible political connections. Vice Presidential hopeful John Edwards and VP Dick Cheney clashed ab out how to 'internationalize' the Iraq War effort. Cheney chided Edwards for supposedly undermining the Iraqi effort.