9/26    \_ Does the politburo have a proposal for what the donations would
           be used for?
           \_ Upgrading Soda.
              \_ Is there something more specific?  What will the upgrade
                 entail?
           \_ I will personally attest that all donations made to the CSUA
              during this time, unless otherwise specifically noted, will go
              toward the hardware upgrade (and we'll actually ask each
              donator to make sure).  We're also making a commitment to
              actually acknowledge and thank people who donate so that people
              don't think we're a group of ungrateful children.

              As for what our plans are, we're planning on upgrading soda to
              a dual xeon machine with a pile of ram and piles of
              fault-tolerant disk.  During this time, we're also planning on
              making upgrades to scotch and a general reshuffling of some of
              the servers to fix some of the issues that we're having right
              now.  (For example, we've been contemplating some fixes to soda
              getting CPU hosed by procmail and spamass processes, one of the
              fixes being to offload mail processing)  Nothing is set in
              stone though; we have to see what kind of funds we'll have to
              do this.  I'll post more in a few days about more of the
              specifics and our needs from the community.
              - jvarga
              \_ Did someone donate dual Xeon box, or is CSUA planning to
                 purchase such a thing?  If purchasing, I can't possibly
                 sit idle and condone this.  I know FreeBSD AMD64 isn't
                 quite ready for real use yet, but it won't be that long.
                 Dual Opteron would be much better way to go.
                 Yes I know Nocona has iAMD64, too, but is far less
                 optimally implemented.
              \_ Dual 90nm Xeons?  Soda goes **FOOM**! -anonymous critic
                 \_ Actually, no joke.  The 90nm P4 designs are hot as shit.
                    Please consider a dual Opteron instead - not that they're
                    really cool or anything, but they might not burn a hole
                    in the case.
                    \_ Liquid cooled Soda!
                       \_ Someone could donate a liquid nitrogen cooled
                          Peltier to the CSUA...
              \_ it would be nice to later post a file with a list of
                 donors (anonymous or monikers if the donor prefers) and
                 what / how  much they donated, and then a list of what
                 the funds were used for, and how much each item cost.
                 \_ No it wouldn't.
                 \_ agree. who cares. fuck off! - danh