Berkeley CSUA MOTD:Entry 33763
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2004/9/26-27 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:33763 Activity:high
9/26    You know, while most of the alums failed to make it big during the
        dot com days there are quite a few others who did in fact make it
        big. Why don't they donate to CSUA? Why don't they wall anymore?
        They used to be liberals, did they suddenly change to stingy
        capitalistic Bush/Cheney supporters after they got rich? Is that why
        they no longer talk to us?
        \_ Years of banging yermom have left them bitter, grouchy and less
           likely to contribute $$$.
           \- Because the CSUA doesnt need money? How about donating to say
              3rd world literacy programs.
              \_ While basically true, in this case I don't think of the
                 CSUA as a charity, (I already donate a lot of money to
                 charities) but as a shared resource we're all using, and
                 should therefore support.
                        \- for what? to hire/stipend the sysadmin?
                           soda doesnt need any more resources ... maybe
                           nominally more disk, but the pburo ought to
                           run a "disk drive" rather than just give them
                           random cash.
                           \_ CPU-wise, SodaVI is gettinv a little long in the
                              tooth, especially with everyone running spam
                              filtering.
                              \_ Shit, we just need that lottery system back.
                           \_ Unless things have changed since I left 9
                              mo. ago, Soda is not in need of more disk so
                              much as NEW disk.  Those TDAs are a mess and
                              could completely crash and burn at anytime.
                              And they take up too much rack space.
                 \_ Is there a convenient way to drop the CSUA the odd bit
                    of cash (i.e. via credit card?)  -John
                    \_ Yes and no, paypal has been suggested, and
                       Politburo set up an account, but they're still
                       working through the legalities with the ASUC.
                       Mailing a check to 343 Soda still works.
                           \_ What is the complete address? And who
                              do we make the check payable to?
                        \_ And costs me about 20 bucks to do from abroad, and
                           a lot of people refuse to use paypal, myself
                           included.  Oh well.  -John
                           \_ Politburo is open to suggestions.  What
                              would you prefer?
                              \_ Anonymous untraceable E-Gold.
                              \- The time has come for:
                 http://home.lbl.gov:8080/~psb/Humor/wall.log-GiantBrain_of_JSL
                 \_ What was the point of this link?  Is it supposed to be
                    funny?
                    \_ Would you trust her to spend your CSUA donation money
                       intelligently?
                       \_ This link is bs and really proves nothing.
        \_ Does the politburo have a proposal for what the donations would
           be used for?
           \_ Upgrading Soda.
              \_ Is there something more specific?  What will the upgrade
                 entail?
           \_ I will personally attest that all donations made to the CSUA
              during this time, unless otherwise specifically noted, will go
              toward the hardware upgrade (and we'll actually ask each
              donator to make sure).  We're also making a commitment to
              actually acknowledge and thank people who donate so that people
              don't think we're a group of ungrateful children.

              As for what our plans are, we're planning on upgrading soda to
              a dual xeon machine with a pile of ram and piles of
              fault-tolerant disk.  During this time, we're also planning on
              making upgrades to scotch and a general reshuffling of some of
              the servers to fix some of the issues that we're having right
              now.  (For example, we've been contemplating some fixes to soda
              getting CPU hosed by procmail and spamass processes, one of the
              fixes being to offload mail processing)  Nothing is set in
              stone though; we have to see what kind of funds we'll have to
              do this.  I'll post more in a few days about more of the
              specifics and our needs from the community.
              - jvarga
              \_ Dual 90nm Xeons?  Soda goes **FOOM**! -anonymous critic
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Boredcast Message from 'jsl': Sun Jul 28 00:13:15 1996 somethings' weird. Boredcast Message from 'jsl': Sun Jul 28 00:20:02 1996 Is there anything fun going on tomorrow? Boredcast Message from 'psb': Sun Jul 28 00:25:40 1996 yes, but you're not invited Boredcast Message from 'jsl': Sun Jul 28 00:26:01 1996 oh, hello psb Boredcast Message from 'psb': Sun Jul 28 00:26:33 1996 are you the one that is the csua president? Boredcast Message from 'jsl': Sun Jul 28 00:27:07 1996 yes Boredcast Message from 'psb': Sun Jul 28 00:27:17 1996 oh i thought you were going to take the 5th on that Boredcast Message from 'peterm': Sun Jul 28 00:27:41 1996 it's not something she could sonvincingly deny psb Boredcast Message from 'psb': Sun Jul 28 00:28:09 1996 taking the 5th isnt a denial Boredcast Message from 'jsl': Sun Jul 28 00:27:44 1996 that would be impossible. If I didn't wnat the job, or didn't think I could do it, I wouldn't have accepted teh job. Boredcast Message from 'psb': Sun Jul 28 00:28:40 1996 ok back to cleaning my living room Boredcast Message from 'jsl': Sun Jul 28 00:28:57 1996 no more CE games? Boredcast Message from 'jsl': Sun Jul 28 00:29:22 1996 hi peter whatcha up to? Boredcast Message from 'peterm': Sun Jul 28 00:28:40 1996 wall getting ready to sleep Boredcast Message from 'psb': Sun Jul 28 00:30:17 1996 *Boredcast Message from 'jsl': Sun Jul 28 00:27:44 1996 || ||that would be impossible. If I didn't wnat the job, or didn't think I could do it, I ||wouldn't have accepted teh job. Boredcast Message from 'peterm': Sun Jul 28 00:30:25 1996 that would be raytrace, psb Boredcast Message from 'peterm': Sun Jul 28 00:30:34 1996 it was either her or ben scotsman Boredcast Message from 'jsl': Sun Jul 28 00:30:32 1996 goognight peter Boredcast Message from 'psb': Sun Jul 28 00:33:53 1996 *Boredcast Message from 'jsl': Sun Jul 28 00:27:44 1996 || ||that would be impossible. If I didn't wnat the job, or didn't think I could do it, I ||wouldn't have accepted teh job. Boredcast Message from 'psb': Sun Jul 28 00:35:25 1996 maybe now is the time to take the 5th Boredcast Message from 'jsl': Sun Jul 28 00:34:34 1996 It's irrelevant what I think. Boredcast Message from 'mehlhaff': Sun Jul 28 00:35:26 1996 since when has the VP really done anything over the summer? only time I've really seen the CSUa really don anything over the summer was during the soda hall move. Boredcast Message from 'psb': Sun Jul 28 00:35:50 1996 you are seriously saying that you think csua president's opinion a bout the csua VP is "irrelvant"? Boredcast Message from 'jsl': Sun Jul 28 00:37:09 1996 what I am saying is that, my personal opinion doesn't matter. Or at least, it only matters as much as everyone elses does. Boredcast Message from 'psb': Sun Jul 28 00:37:42 1996 thats a fine legal argument ... but you do have that right Boredcast Message from 'pld': Sun Jul 28 00:38:22 1996 how about your professional opinion Boredcast Message from 'peterm': Sun Jul 28 00:38:47 1996 you can't argue that your professional opinion is irrelevant Boredcast Message from 'psb': Sun Jul 28 00:38:34 1996 we are not discuss the worth but the content of your opinion. as you suggest, it's up to others to assess the worth Boredcast Message from 'jsl': Sun Jul 28 00:38:42 1996 pld : glad you asked that. my professional opinion will balways be the general opinion Boredcast Message from 'pld': Sun Jul 28 00:39:14 1996 in make, is there a decent way to pass an extra param to the compiler when compiling certain files Boredcast Message from 'psb': Sun Jul 28 00:39:12 1996 >you can't argue that your professional opinion is irrelevant but she can take the 5th. Boredcast Message from 'pld': Sun Jul 28 00:39:28 1996 wow, so you're like a professional sponge Boredcast Message from 'psb': Sun Jul 28 00:39:28 1996 >my professional opinion will balways be the general opinion uh then what is the "general opinion"? Boredcast Message from 'pld': Sun Jul 28 00:39:58 1996 is psb a general Boredcast Message from 'jsl': Sun Jul 28 00:39:37 1996 I personally believe that. I can have a personal opinion, but as an elected representative I should be just that. Boredcast Message from 'peterm': Sun Jul 28 00:39:45 1996 it's the old dilemma: d'you want your politicians to have the courage of their convictions, or reflect the will of the populace, fickle as that may be? Boredcast Message from 'aaron': Sun Jul 28 00:40:23 1996 play on tbyte Boredcast Message from 'psb': Sun Jul 28 00:40:26 1996 any i'm asking you what is the general opinion in this case. opinion" and the General Will are the same Boredcast Message from 'lindsay': Sun Jul 28 00:40:56 1996 are they sleeping in their vomit? Me, i'll put my money on it all my friends are drug fiends Boredcast Message from 'pld': Sun Jul 28 00:41:02 1996 Invoking man pmake in background Boredcast Message from 'jsl': Sun Jul 28 00:40:34 1996 peterm : I will of course present my personal opinions and argue for them However, I will prepresent the general opinion Boredcast Message from 'jsl': Sun Jul 28 00:41:33 1996 psb : okay, in this case i can honestly answer I don't know. We've been in office for so short a time I havne't gotten much feedback on how any of us are doing. Boredcast Message from 'psb': Sun Jul 28 00:41:57 1996 >However, I will prepresent the general opinion it seems pretty hard to get you to present the general opinion Boredcast Message from 'pld': Sun Jul 28 00:42:18 1996 by prepresent, do you mean present first, or is it a typo for represent Boredcast Message from 'lindsay': Sun Jul 28 00:42:03 1996 pcp smack dope and speed that's what they say they all need all my friends are drug fiends Boredcast Message from 'jsl': Sun Jul 28 00:42:32 1996 present Boredcast Message from 'pld': Sun Jul 28 00:42:42 1996 Not to cloud the issue or anything Boredcast Message from 'jsl': Sun Jul 28 00:42:39 1996 psb : really? Boredcast Message from 'psb': Sun Jul 28 00:42:27 1996 so all you know is that you share an opinion which you dont know? Boredcast Message from 'jsl': Sun Jul 28 00:42:50 1996 psb : as far as I know, I've run meetings and stated only personal opinions so far. It won't be until after the meeting and after the general will has been made known that I will act accordingly. Boredcast Message from 'jon': Sun Jul 28 00:43:49 1996 so you have no will of your own? Boredcast Message from 'jsl': Sun Jul 28 00:44:08 1996 jon : I have my personal oopinion as previsouly stated. Boredcast Message from 'jon': Sun Jul 28 00:44:41 1996 well not to burst any bubbles, but what I -- or the general will dictates -- want is not necessarily the same as 'good for the CSUA' Boredcast Message from 'mehlhaff': Sun Jul 28 00:45:26 1996 quite often, they re counter. Boredcast Message from 'jon': Sun Jul 28 00:45:18 1996 now to find out what the fuck kenji means when he says something is in the UCSEE library ... Boredcast Message from 'jsl': Sun Jul 28 00:44:38 1996 jon : I'll argue for what I believe, but if the majority is of a different opinion, than I have no choice but to concede. Boredcast Message from 'peterm': Sun Jul 28 00:45:35 1996 boy, people are getting themselves into trouble tonight Boredcast Message from 'psb': Sun Jul 28 00:44:00 1996 so currently you have no "professional opinion" since you have not yet been told what to believe professionally. i suppose that makes it a semantic matter whether or not this non-existent opinion is relevant or not. it's also somewhat curious to jsl> I plead the 5th when your honest answer emerges as "i dont know" Boredcast Message from 'jsl': Sun Jul 28 00:45:45 1996 I realize that what peopol decide could be bad, but if that's what they want. It's my job to give everyone all the facts and help them to decide whta's best. Boredcast Message from 'jon': Sun Jul 28 00:46:37 1996 and you rule the CSUA with an iron fist? Boredcast Message from 'peterm': Sun Jul 28 00:46:43 1996 that's not exactly how the representative model of gov't is supposed to work jsl Boredcast Message from 'jsl': Sun Jul 28 00:47:08 1996 peterm : please tell me how it's suposed to work then. Boredcast Message from 'peterm': Sun Jul 28 00:47:38 1996 I think psb could...