9/22    Anyone here learn lock picking?  I'm kind of interested in picking it
        up (no, not for nefarious purposes).  Any suggestions on how to start,
        which lockpicks to buy?
        \_ Kryptonite U-Locks.
           \_ http://67.19.221.38/4.wmv (ulock picking with BIC pen)
              \_ I tried this with my lock, but couldn't get it to work.
                 The inside diameter of the pen is smaller than the diameter
                 of the center round bit in the lock, and the pen doesn't
                 fit in.  Am I just using the wrong Bic pen, or does this
                 not work on the newer locks(I just got my lock)?
              \_ wow, you're so clever!  I'm sure the previous poster had no
                 idea about that link which has been passed around the net
                 400 times in the past week!
                 \_ wow, you're so insightful, assuming that i didn't know
                    that he knew. gee, why else would someone post
                    "Kyrptonite U-Locks." and nothing else? i was merely
                    providing an additional reference, moron.
        \_ MIT guide to lockpicking is a good start.  -John
           \_ I've already read it.  Now I'm interested in getting picks and
              practicing.
              \_ then get some picks and practice.  It's the best way to learn.
                 You can also learn a lot by getting some locks and dismantling
                 them to see how they work inside.
                 A good thing to do is get a board and buy some standard locks
                 mount them in it and practice on that.  It makes a good thing
                 to practice on without having to explain yourself.  -EricM
                 \_ Just pick the locks at your home, and your car inside your
                    garage.
                    \_ That's a very bad idea.  I screwed up a lot of locks
                       while learning (I got in, though).
                 \_ That was my plan.  Did you see how I asked about which
                    lockpicks to buy?  Any suggestions?
                    \_ Glock 23
                       \_ I hate glocks. -- ilyas
                          \_ Glocks never felt terribly comfortable in my
                             hand.   -POC
                             \_ Let's not forget the 5 metric ton trigger
                                pull, and the refined austrian watergun design.
                                Everytime a glock is sold, God kills a
                                kitten. -- ilyas
                                \_ It's a good gun...it's just that *I*
                                   have never found a use for one...and yeah,
                                   the trigger pull kind of sucks.
                                   Personally, I like the factory installed
                                   pull of smiths and the usp.  -POC
                                   \_ I find that the handle/grip is too short
                                      for my hand. --erikred
                                \_ That's silly. It's lighter than most DAOs
                                   and can be easily modded lighter. They're
                                   proven tough and simple to maintain.
                                   Fashion snob.
                       \_ While this method is doubtless effective, it seems
                          like it might be hazardous to practice in your home,
                          and probably lacks in stealthiness.
                          \_ Yes but practice becomes unnecessary. And think
                             of the many other uses around the house! I suppose
                             the property damage could be a problem.
        \_ Northern Tool and Equipment has some: http://csua.org/u/963
           Their latest catalog had ~20 piece set.
           \- BTW, some locks are a lot harder than others ... even without
              talking about say medcos, BESTs are not good to begin with.
              also the general problem of "getting pasted locked doors"
              also the general problem of "getting past locked doors"
              has a lot of other solutions aside from picking the lock ...
              climbing over things, using shims etc. --psb