9/22    First of all, I am not bitter or anything.  But Google sucks ass.
        Their recruiter of the Site Reliability group called me and I
        went on pass the phone screening and did an on site interview,
        but only to find out the group is mostly an IT/Operation type
        of group and they are looking for someone strong in UNIX sys admin
        with programming skills.  So they politely told me that there
        wasn't a good fit.  That's all fine since my background is in
        application development.  Then a second recruiter contacted me
        and wanted to talk to me.  I emailed her back and attempted to
        set up a phone interview but only to have her email me back and
        told me to get out of her face since Google's database said
        \_ If she blew you off rudely or unprofessionally, just send a
           calm letter to the director of HR.  Write something like
           "I have been impressed with google's technical expertise ...
           interested in working  there ... but was somewhat surprised
           at the lack of professionalism among the HR/recruiting
           personnel ...". It would be interesting to see the
           "get out of my face" letter.
        I have been rejected before.  WTF?  It's like interviewing
        a sales guy for a marketing position and tells him there isn't
        a good fit and denies him of any future opportunities.  That's
        \_ Similar thing happened to me in 1997 when Netscape people contacted
           me. They were totally unorganized and were very unprofessional.
           I'm glad they fucked up though because AOL sucks and the good/smart
           people who used to work there all left and the only people who
           remain are now the dumb dot-com rejects who have no where else
           to go to.
        \_ That wasn't my experience.  -- ilyas
        fine if the 'one-strike-and-you-are-out-forever' is the company
        mandate, then the second recruiter should have checked their
        f*cking database before contacted me so she doesn't waste my
        time.
        \_ in other words, google is teh suck.
        \_ I interviewed with the Site Reliability group.  Answered all the
           standard stuff perfectly, answered their random stuff 99.9%.
           Taught one of their guys more about his topic than he knew.  The
           response?  I'm not technically qualified to work at Google.
           Whatever.  Fuck it.  6 months after the IPO, all the smart money
           will quit and go find a nice beach and they'll be desperately
           combing their database for both of us.  I'll be happily fitting
           in somewhere else.  I suggest you do the same.  Nice cafeteria
           though.  Don't take it personally.  Our interaction with Google
           is *very* common.  They think their shit doesn't stink and treat
           everyone like crap.  It's an equal opportunity crappiness there.
        \_ Yes. You are not bitter. No. Definitely not bitter. Not a chance.
           \_ I am not, I am just pissed that she wasted my time.
        \_ Maybe the first interviewer said those nice things to you, but
           wrote "He is teh gay.  Do not hire under any circumstances," in
           his report.
           \_ OMGWTFLOL!  GOOG doesn't hire gay people?  LAWSUIT!
        \_ Google is run by a bunch of kids with money. If they have a
           one-strike policy and lack professionalism, then it's time to
           move on to another better-run company.
           \_ hey, how's that short of GOOG going?  -tom
              \_ GOOG at 118.65 up .81.  It just barely hit their original
                 opening price before they dropped it like a pile of stinking
                 shit.  At IPO+6 months+1 day, we'll see how many of their
                 employees dump how many zillions of shares and retire
                 causing a huge brain drain.  At that point expect to see
                 a lot of Google jobs posted online and a less shitty
                 attitude when it comes to hiring there.
                 \_ Since you're a brilliant analyst and I'm just an
                    employee, maybe you can tell me the relative size of
                    these two numbers: total employee holdings vs. average
                    daily volume of google since open. No? Then how about
                    a nice hot cup of shut the fuck up?
                    \_ The volume is likely going to increase when more shares
                       are released. Right now the volume is a high
                       percentage of the float. Insiders still own most of
                       the stock. Do you have a point?
                    \_ I love how you totally and intentionally missed the
                       point.  At 6mo+1day, all the smart people will quit.
                       *You* don't have enough stock or brains to matter but
                       the smart ones are outta there.
                       \_ You don't know anything about my brains or my
                          stock. I however know a lot of things that make
                          me laugh at your dancing monkey rants. --googler
                      \_ The GOOG employee lockup doesn't expire at 6mo.
                         \_ The vast majority of shares can go on the market
                            in February.
                 \_ These grapes, dey are so SOUR!
                    \_ Go ahead and buy GOOG the day before those people can
                       sell.
                 \_ Hmm, it opened at 100, which means it's up almost 20%.
                    Still pissed about that short squeeze, I see.  -tom
                    \_ Ignoring what I said, again.  It is just barely above
                       the price they originally announced before they dropped
                       it, roughly.... (drumroll) 20% before going public.
                       \_ Now you're just making stuff up.  The initial
                          "range" was announced as $100-$120.  The initial
                          price was set by a public auction.  -tom
                    \_ It was me who is going to short it and I still am.
                       Investors are still unable to short it. The higher
                       it gets the better short prospect it will be.
                       \_ These grapes, dey are so SOUR!
                          \_ That's not sour grapes, and shorting GOOG isn't
                             just player-hating.  No company can trade at 150x
                             earnings forever, so unless they produce massive
                             earnings growth, it *will* come down.
                             \_ you appear to be discounting the fact that
                                GOOG *is* producing massive earnings growth.
                                  -tom
                                \_ They're doing well now, but they still need
                                   to increase about 1000% to justify the
                                   current price.
                          \_ No one shorts anything based on sour grapes.  You
                             are a kool aid drinker.
                \_ I find being short harder than being long.  When I am long
                   if the stock goes down a little, I am not worried, but
                   when I am short, and the stock goes up, I get worried and
                   cover.  This happened when I bought pmcs at like $21 and
                   covered at like $24.  Now it's like $10.  So, while I was
                   "right", I still lost money.  I think a similar thing
                   could happen with google.  If you want to short it, you
                   need to have patience and be able to withstand some
                   volatility.
                   \_ Your gf said she found it hard when you were short, too.
                   \_ Unbounded risk will tend to have that effect.