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| 2004/9/21 [Politics/Domestic/Election, Politics/Domestic/Crime] UID:33675 Activity:high |
9/21 Don't get Tim Noah mad at you. http://slate.msn.com/id/2107041 \_ it's pretty amazing how quickly the dittohead machine gets the public discourse away from the core issues. (See below discussion) -tom \_ ^Tim Noah^Geddes \_ Both. Is public examination of your life worse than getting fired? \_ http://csua.org/u/90k (original source article) If you think the right to privacy exceeds the newsworthiness, then more power to you. \_ Yep, I know. Just make sure you don't get Tim Noah mad at you, or he'd drag your life out in electronic print. \_ I'm struggling to find the newsworthiness in Tim Noah's expose of Geddes' life. \_ The "expose of Geddes' life" seems to be restricted to his political beliefs in direct relation to why he fired the lady. Again, if you think the right to privacy exceeds the newsworthiness, then more power to you. \_ Yes, I am sure Geddes' work as a standing trustee has much to do with the firing. And certainly the examination on how he got the standing trustee job has much to do with the firing. In fact, the whole point of the article seems to be that there's no news here. \_ Okay, that part is outside the firing. As for "no news here", it was news to me -- thanks for the URL. \_ Just eyeballing it, but that part is probably 2/3 of the article. Like I said, don't get Noah mad at you. \_ IMO, an employer firing someone for having a Kerry bumper sticker is something one can get legitimately mad about. \_ Sure, get mad. But publish an "expose" of Geddes as a standing trustee? This is just Noah flexing his power to punish Geddes. \_ I believe you were the person who used the term "expose". IMO, the publicity is deserved. BTW, do you know you overwrite posts? \_ Sorry if I overwrote your post, though I did try to merge in my changes. To be honest, with all the automerging that is going on, it's hard to tell who's overwriting whom in conversations like this. \_ We place different value on privacy then. If you care about your privacy, don't get Noah mad at you, because he has a mouthpiece, and he's going to use it to punish you. \_ The publicity is deserved, IMO. \_ I think we can all agree that Geddes is a jerk. So you think it's ok to talk about his other work as a standing trustee, even though it has nothing to do with the firing. What else would be ok to talk about? Can Noah publish his past traffic violations? Any other criminal record of Geddes'? How about what books he borrowed from the library? Or what tapes he rented from the video store? Or where he web surfed? Do you have a privacy threshold? \_ I believe I already wrote that this was outside the firing, and I won't spend time defending that. This is where you say "no news here", and this is where I say, "thanks for the URL, anyway." \_ Ah. I thought you were also the guy who said the publicity is deserved, and I was responding to that. Hard to tell on the motd. \_ I'm the same guy. Basically I'm for publicity on the firing, but I'm not sure about publicity on his trusteeship. The latter is much more arguable. \_ Ah, then we agree then. I also have no trouble with publicizing the firing, but I find the bulk of the Noah article disturbing. I don't find it disturbing. If you _/ Do something political and newsworthy then media will analyze you for juicy tidbits in search of a story. Noah here got a story: that this guy profits from people having economic troubles. \_ Tough shit. This is politics. This is how the world works. If you act like an ass, you might have someone act like an ass back to you. This is why we have a free press. \_ So every facet of Geddes' life is open to inspection? Or is there a privacy threshold? |
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| slate.msn.com/id/2107041 Lynne Gobbell lost her factory job, your first question was, "What kind of asshole would fire an employee for driving to work in a car with a John Kerry bumper sticker?" Answer: An asshole who works for the Bush administration. fired Gobbell from her job operating a bagging machine at Enviromate, the housing-insulation plant he owns, because Gobbell wouldn't remove a Kerry-Edwards bumper sticker from the rear windshield of her Chevy Lumina. The silver lining is that John Kerry heard about it and hired Gobbell. Introducing homeowners to the miracle that is cellulose insulation isn't his only livelihood. Chapter 13 standing trustee for the Northern District of Alabama, which is a fancy way of saying that he collects money from deadbeats and turns it over to the saps who extended them credit. division of the Justice department that supervises standing trustees has not yet been able to tell me when Geddes was appointed. It was able to establish, though, that Geddes has been a standing trustee since at least 1995, which gets Bush fils off the hook (though not necessarily Bush pere). Standing trustees "seem to stay in place administration after administration," one bankruptcy attorney explained to me. enumerating the many things the company was able to do thanks to Bush's tax cuts: "buy the new Hammer Mill," "get the wire cutter," "give you a job," etc. Geddes failed to mention, though, another way that the president's economic policies blessed him. Alabama's Chapter 13 filings fully 9 percent between 2000 and 2003. Given a bumper crop like that, who wouldn't fire anyone who disrespected the guy who spreads the fertilizer? Moneybox: Stocks Are From Mars, Bonds Are From Venus Stocks Are From Mars The biggest game of tug of war this fall isn't being played at a corporate retreat or frate... |
| csua.org/u/90k -> www.decaturdaily.com/decaturdaily/news/040912/sticker.shtml com 340-2443 MOULTON -- Lynne Gobbell never imagined the cost of a John Kerry-John Edwards bumper sticker could run so high. Lynne Gobbell said her boss fired her last week because of the Kerry-Edwards campaign sticker on the back of her car. DAILY Photo by Clyde Stancil Lynne Gobbell said her boss fired her last week because of the Kerry-Edwards campaign sticker on the back of her car. Gobbell of Moulton didn't pay a cent for the sticker that she proudly displays on the rear windshield of her Chevrolet Lumina, but said it cost her job at a local factory after it angered her boss, Phil Gaddis. Gaddis, a Decatur bankruptcy attorney, owns Enviromate, a cellulose insulation company in Moulton. Gaddis did not return phone calls from THE DAILY about the alleged Thursday firing. Gobbell said she consulted a lawyer, but then changed her mind about going to see him. She said she has cried about the incident and must do without income for three weeks while the state unemployment commission decides if she is eligible for compensation. Gobbell said she was averaging 50 to 60 hours a week on the plant's bagging machine. "The lady there (at the unemployment commission) said that she has never heard of a firing like this before," Gobbell said. Gobbell gave this account: "We were going back to work from break, and my manager told me that Phil said to remove the sticker off my car or I was fired," she said. "Phil and another man who works there were there," she said. "I asked him if I was fired and he told me he was thinking about it," she said. The manager told her to go back to work, but he came back a few minutes later and said, " 'I reckon you're fired. You could either work for him or John Kerry,' " Gobbell said. "I took off my gloves and threw them in the garbage and left," Gobbell said. Though she is unemployed and uncertain if she will get her job back, Gobbell said, she doesn't regret her decision to keep the sticker on her windshield. "I would like to find another job, but I would take that job back because I need to work," she said. "It upset me and made me mad that he could put a letter in my check expressing his (political) opinion, but I can't put something on my car expressing mine." She was referring to a flier that she said Gaddis placed in employee envelopes to remind them of the positive impact that President Bush's policies have had on them. An employee at the plant who would not identify himself confirmed the contents of the letter. It says: "Just so you will know, because of the Bush tax (cut): I was able to buy the new Hammer Mill I was able to finance our receivables I was able to get the new CAT skid steer I was able to get the wire cutter I was able to give you a job" It further says: "You got the benefit of the Bush tax cut. |