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2004/9/19 [Politics/Domestic/Election, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:33621 Activity:high
9/18    Defend private property from illegal invasion, get shot by the
        FBI
        Federal agents surround ranch in Douglas, Arizona
        http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1218545/posts
        \_ from one of the freeper posts a bit down on the page:
           "I remember that we held our noses 4 years ago. The pubbies told us
           to give him a gop House and Senate and we'd get what we wanted. We
           held up our end of the deal. This year, I'm not holding my nose."
           Hah! you fuckers are losing your base.  It continues to amaze
           me how the same people who claim to be radical opponents of
           excessive government power can support the Ashcroft justice
           department.
           \_ As much as reality may upset you, gun toting freeper yahoos
              are not the (R) base.  Someone who refers to them as "The
              pubbies" clearly sees himself not as the base but outside the
              party and needing to be bought.  Carry on.
           \_ Generalizations accomplish very little - there are statists
              in both parties.  Exactly which provisions or actions by
              Ashcroft are you upset about?  I never heard
              outcries from the left about Clinton's 1995 anti-terror act,
              of which the Patriot Act simply ties up the loose ends.
              \_ Explain this to us less tinfoil-oriented types.
              \_ Because Clinton:good, Bush:evil.  Very straight forward.
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An FBI agent shot an acquaintance of a border watch group member while trying to serve an arrest warrant, FBI officials said Thursday. The shooting happened about 11:15 pm Wednesday in a grocery store parking lot in Douglas along the southeastern Arizona border with Mexico. According to the FBI, the agent was trying to serve an arrest warrant on Casey Nethercott of Douglas. Ranch Rescue, a group that works to protect private property along the southern US border. Ranch Rescue and several other unauthorized groups have been patrolling along the border looking for illegal immigrants, raising concerns among migrants rights groups about potential abuses. At the time, Nethercott was with 22-year-old Kalen Riddle, also of Douglas. Charlene Thornton, special agent in charge of the Phoenix FBI office, said that "actions taken by Nethercott and Riddle led one of the FBI agents to fire his weapon." The FBI would not elaborate and said it won't release the name of the agent who fired the shot, in keeping with FBI policy. Riddle was airlifted to a Tucson hospital, but FBI officials did not know his condition. Nethercott was arrested Wednesday and is in federal custody. An FBI spokeswoman confirmed agents searched Nethercott's Douglas ranch on Thursday afternoon. The warrant the FBI was trying to serve alleges that Nethercott threatened Border Patrol agents. According to the warrant, Nethercott refused to pull over for Border Patrol agents on Aug. After a slow-speed chase, the warrant said that Nethercott entered "a compound in Douglas occupied by members of Ranch Rescue." Agents said the Ranch Rescue members were heavily armed and had night vision equipment. After Border Patrol agents yelled for Nethercott to show his hands, the affidavit says Nethercott refused, and responded: "I'm going to take care of this myself, we're going to have a shootout." A phone message left Thursday at a residence listed for Nethercott was not returned. He was convicted of assault with a firearm in California and was on parole when he joined Ranch Rescue. In June, he was also found guilty by a Texas jury of felony firearm possession. The jury was deadlocked on a second charge that accused Nethercott of pistol-whipping an illegal immigrant near a Texas ranch. Douglas rancher Roger Barnett, who is not part of Ranch Rescue, supports the measures Nethercott took to stop illegal immigration. He compared the shooting of Riddle to Branch Davidians, who fought federal agents in Waco, Texas. "Citizens have to get out and protect themselves," Barnett said. The citizens trying to protect their property and their country have become enemies of the state. Illegal aliens have become a protected class free to trash and harass private property and its owners. I GUESS RANCHES ONLY IN CRAWFORD TEXAS ARE PRIVATE PROPERTY. View Replies To: Conservative Firster Hate to say it, this is the one thing that forces me to hold my nose while voting for Bush. I love everything else about him, but immigration drives me bonkers. I pray that he takes a turn to the right after being reelected. View Replies To: Crazieman Hate to say it, this is the one thing that forces me to hold my nose while voting for Bush. So, you're OK with: - Huge increases in vote-buying Federal spending, like the "free" pills for Greedy Geezers? View Replies To: Conservative Firster Same garbage used to justify Waco and the latter shootings in Idaho. and confront a US citizen but they can not perform their real job of (see their name). that can be straightened out if they holler loud enough. View Replies To: radicalamericannationalist sKerry is no better though. So why has there been zero pressure on Bush to shape up? "Praying" for him to reform after he's reelected is far too late. Conservatives need to extract promises to cut spending, stop the attacks on the First Amendment and fix the illegal aliens now. Otherwise, he'll be the same RINO he's been for 4 years. if he coasts to reelection, watch deficits and illegals explode in numbers. View Replies To: Conservative Firster I'm not going to assume the government was the bad guy in this mess. Although I appreciate what the militias in southern AZ are trying to accomplish, they have to be careful they don't turn into vigilante organizations. Let's wait for the facts -- we turn into DU-style blame America firsters. View Replies To: Conservative Firster Interesting how the Mexican drug cartels can pretty much do as they please -- the other week some Mexicans came over and executed a guy at a Whattaburger and the FBI nor police can do anything about it. An American protecting private property though -- and they'll be there right away. View Replies To: Hank Rearden My thinking is we get him in because of judges. I can't guarantee miracles with him but you know there'd be no hope with sKerry unless we get a Souter-in-reverse. The trick will be pressuring Congress to rein him in and then preparing for a knock-down-drag-out in 2008 to make sure a true conservative is nominated. View Replies To: Conservative Firster This is incredible. The FBI attacking people defending their property from criminal alians. We need to mount an intense campaign to put pressure on Bush to do somthing about the border. View Replies To: Crazieman Ditto, hold your nose and vote for Bush... Sounds like a replay on the election with "read my lips, no new taxes" and Bush I Some day there'll be a 3rd party that supports Western Civilization and is against illegal immigration. View Replies To: Conservative Firster I'm sick to my stomach. A migrant's rights organization has just triumphed over a private property owner, and the people he asked to help him protect his land. View Replies To: Conservative Firster Depends on what "heavily armed" means. If they're a wacko militia group then I have no sympathy, however if they're merely a group of ranchers out to protect their own private property from illegals then more power to them. When the government opens the borders and gives illegals more rights than citizens, then it's up to the people to protect their own. View Replies To: Hank Rearden " So why has there been zero pressure on Bush to shape up? "Praying" for him to reform after he's reelected is far too late. I was beginning to think that I was the only one still saying it. Hank Rearden We need to mount an intense campaign to put pressure on Bush to do somthing about the border. The problem with this is that both major political parties WANT illegals streaming into our country. What are the chances that a hemispheric government will speak English? The big picture says they are consciously 'Hispanicizing' North America to ease harmonizing a future governmental structure. View Replies To: Hop A Long Cassidy "Ditto, hold your nose and vote for Bush... The pubbies told us to give him a gop House and Senate and we'd get what we wanted. View Replies To: FITZ Sometimes I wonder if the DEA undercover guys, posing as runners, aren't working for FBI undercover guys, posing as financiers who work for NSA guys posing as enforcers who work for CIA guys posing as whatever: and nobody knows who anybody else is. Which is why warrants for narco-terrorists aren't going anywhere: at every hearing, there's a call from Washington, "Yer Honor, he's one of ours." Shoot, mebbe the US is running the cartels, and they don't know it. View Replies To: Conservative Firster Sure looks like a wacko militia to me. "wacko militia" was a concept and a term coined during the Clintoon's administration, no? 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