9/15    It's no use to anonymously criticize ilyas' lichdom.
        \_ Funny, I always thought of him as a sort of 1st Edition demilich.
           \_ I played Koshey the Deathless in a school play once. -- ilyas

[ don't sign my name to stuff i didn't write, thank you.  bitch. -- ilyas ]
\_ SQUISH HIM!!!
\_ How we know you're the real Ilyas?  That text looks suspiciously like it
   came out of Microsoft Word, and we KNOW Ilya only uses vi.
   \_ I am not Ilyas.  My login isn't capitalized, and my name doesn't contain
      an s.  How do I know you are the real anonymous troll?  -- ilyas
\_ So, Ilya, technical issues aside do you support anonymous or logged motd?
   \_ "I voted for a logged motd before I voted against it."  I support the
      current quasianonymous motd.  (a) Removal of anonymity will remove a lot
      of motd content, for better or worse.  I would rather not implicitly
      censor what people say.  (b) People will find a way to hose anyways,
      it's a social problem not a technical one.  My solution is to make
      the motd unpleasant if people are hosers, in the hopes that people will
      be less likely to be hosers in the future. -- ilyas
      \_ Logged motd is the way to go.  But on the other note, I'd be glad
         to share my plans for motd solutions with ilyas. - pst
         \_ I support logged motd. I also support turning "more /etc/motd"
            on by default for new users, and instruction on how to post
            to motd and wall on the main CSUA web site.
      \_ wow...making people sign their name is implicitly censoring what they
         say?  You really are a moron.  -tom
         \_ no, making people sign their name is explicitly an invasion of
            the right to privacy, moron. -williamc
         \_ you mean kind of like how secret ballot voting makes people not
            afraid to vote?
      \_ Well, those who are hosers are likely to continue their behavior at
         points where they don't care about your attempts at unpleasantness.
         \_ This doesn't appear to be true.  I see no further ilyas bait today.
            \_ perhaps because ilyas hasn't written anything since?
            \_ This isn't the first time ilyas has done the motd wipe.