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8/31    Ignoring what Moore says, the contemporary example for
        unequal pay for the same work between men and women is Wal-Mart.
        http://www.walmartversuswomen.com/faq.html
        "Sworn declarations [in the class-action lawsuit]... among them:
        ... Managers repeatedly informed women employees that men 'need to be
        paid more than women because they have families to support.'
        ... because 'men are here to make a career and women aren't. Retail is
        for housewives who just need to earn extra money.'"
        (Moore just ties the behavior of Wal-Mart to the GOP, a link which he
        doesn't adequately support.)
        \_ The link is obvious.  They are the party pushing for deregulation,
           gutting the SEC's audit team, trying to gut Tort law, etc etc etc.
           The dems push equal pay policy quietly, but at least it's on their
           radar.
           \_ I don't know: you make some good points on GOP favoring corporate
              profits over regulation, but you still haven't persuaded me. -op
              \_ This wouldn't even really be about profits.  This is about
                 stripping away regulations and litigative powers.  These are
                 the only tools the people, through the government, hold to
                 keep corporations in check.  The GOP want them gone.
                 The equal pay for equal work people think the issue should be
                 on the same level of concern as environmental pollution.  The
                 GOP would love to see both concerns vanish.
        \_ There's lies, damn lies, and statistics:
           The New York Times reported on Feb. 16, 2003 that a study
           commissioned by the plaintiffs. lawyers and released that month by
           Richard Drogin, emeritus statistics professor at California State
           University, Hayward, "found that full-time women hourly employees
           working at least 45 weeks at Wal-Mart made abut $1,150 less per year
           than men in similar jobs, a 6.2% gap. Women store managers, he
           found, made an average of $89,280 a year, $16,400 less than men."

           No mention of methodology.  I'm always suspicious of these kind of
           studies because they often do not look for other correlations that
           might explain the data.
           \_ It has enough merit to stand up in court.
              \_ Which means squat about its methodological correctness.
                 \_ and of course you have statistics which show that women
                    are paid fairly at walmart...
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org Frequently asked questions Current top questions from our website visitors... Now that I know how Wal-Mart treats women, where can I shop for the things I need at stores that treat women fairly? We'll add more retailers to the list after we check them out. Where can I get more information about Wal-Mart's sexist treatment of women employees? There are many resources on the web that address this issue. Sworn declarations from more than 100 current and former Wal-Mart female workers - from hourly employees to former district managers - highlight discriminatory practices at the retail giant. Among them: * A female assistant manager in Utah was told by her store manager that retail is "tough" and not "appropriate" for women. Retail is for housewives who just need to earn extra money." Since becoming Miss America in 1992, Carolyn Sapp has championed many issues facing women today. She has worked tirelessly to improve education and to promote the national non-profit organization she founded - Safe Places for Abused Women and Children. Carolyn launched this site to help spread the word about Wal-Mart's unequal treatment of women.