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8/30 Why would taking antibiotics help with acne? I mean, acne is
just oil gland popping out right? -acne guy
\_ It's a sebaceus gland that gets clogged. I think bacteria help to
clog them.
\_ Acne is a really bad reason to over-medicate with antibiotics.
In general, antibiotics should be avoided unless absolutely
neccessary, as their overuse decreases their effectiveness
over time.
\_ Agreed. I think anti-bacterial soap should be banned from
general use.
\_ yeah, ban Clorine as well because it's anti-bacterial
\_ it's much more than anti-bacterial, it's anti-microbial.
\_ What's the difference?
\_ Heh. Just in case you're not being deliberately obtuse,
anti-bacterial soap has nothing to do with antibiotics.
Are you familiar with the concepts of natural selection
and the process by which bacteria become resistant to
antibiotics?
\_ Hmm, last I checked, anti-bacterial soap contains legal
amounts of antibiotics.
\_ I thought most antibacterial soaps used triclosan
as their active ingredient.
\_ Ah, sorry! I was wrong! But overuse of
antibacterial agents like triclosan also causes
"superbugs", just like overuse of antibiotics.
http://csua.org/u/8ui
\_ "some scientists believe."
\_ What are you, the new york post? If you keep
exposing bacteria to nasty stuff they'll
eventually work out a way to live with it.
Or is it that you believe God wouldn't allow
such a thing to happen?
\_ obviously, you're wrong. bacteria can't
live in boiling water or alcohol or
bleach, despite thousands of years of
using this "nasty stuff" to kill
bacteria.
\_ Bleach has been around for thousands
of years?
\_ There is a huge qualitative difference
between, say, bleach, and an
antibiotic. Antibiotic-resistant
strains of bacteria are rampant
due to overuse of antibiotics. Just
wait and see how much fun we'll have
when an antibiotic resistant
chlamydia organism gets out into the
wild.
\_ triclosan is not an antibiotic.
\_ True, but it is also not bleach.
Triclosan is weak enough that it
is safe enough for humans. You
really don't want to be dousing
your hands in bleach every time
you use the bathroom do you?
Okay, I've met some OCD victims
that might try it, but really.
See the post just below for more
information.
\_ crab fisherman use clorox
to clean their wounds.
that's because most
crab fisherman are insane.
\_ Anything that kills 100% of bacteria
will never cause resistance in them.
If you repeated expose them to
lowed amounts that only kill some
(very hot water, diluted bleach or
alcohol) you will eventually build up
a resistance which will make it harder
to kill as many with how water or
dilute bleach or whatever, so you will
have to increase the concentration or
temperature or duration of exposure._ |
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| csua.org/u/8ui -> www.mercola.com/2004/mar/20/antibacterial_soaps.htm Printer Friendly Version The Truth About Antibacterial Soaps--And Why You Should Avoid Them By Dr. Joseph Mercola with Rachael Droege It used to be that antibacterial soaps were used mainly in clinical health care environments. Now, antibacterial soaps are used in households across the country where they amount to a $16 billion-a-year industry. Some 72 percent of all liquid soap sold in the United States now contains antibacterial ingredients. The active ingredient in most antibacterial products is triclosan, an antibacterial agent that kills bacteria and inhibits bacterial growth. Triclosan was introduced into consumer products in 1995, and its use has spread rapidly. Antibacterial ingredients have become so prevalent in the United States that there are now antibacterial soaps, laundry detergents, shampoos, toothpastes, body washes, dish soaps and many household cleaning products. Consumers use these products because they have been marketed as an effective and necessary way to lower the risk of infection. However, many scientists fear that the widespread use could lead to a strain of resistant bacteria, or "superbugs," and cause the ingredients to lose effectiveness for the times when they really are needed. And now, the first major test in people's homes has found that using antibacterial products apparently offers little protection against the most common germs. The study represents the first time scientists have attempted to evaluate the products under real-life, day-to-day conditions in homes. March 2, 2004 journal Annals of Internal Medicine, people who used antibacterial soaps and cleansers developed cough, runny nose, sore throat, fever, vomiting, diarrhea and other symptoms just as often as people who used products that did not contain antibacterial ingredients. The researchers pointed out that most of the symptoms experienced by the study participants are typically caused by viruses, which the antibacterial soaps don't protect against. And for the symptoms like vomiting and diarrhea, which may be caused by bacteria, the people who used regular soaps had no greater risk than those who used antibacterial products. Further, many traditional medical circles now accept the hygiene hypothesis, which centers on the idea that children need to be exposed to some bacteria in early childhood in order to strengthen their immune systems. American Medical Association (AMA) does not recommend these products. the manufacturers have relied on using fear to convince people that they need to use them to stay healthy. All you need to use is a plain, chemical-free soap that you can pick up in your local health food store, as washing with plain soap and water will get rid of most all bacteria. This content may be copied in full, with copyright, contact, creation and information intact, without specific permission, when used only in a not-for-profit format. If any other use is desired, permission in writing from Dr. Disclaimer: The entire contents of this website are based upon the opinions of Dr. Individual articles are based upon the opinions of the respective author, who retains copyright as marked. The information on this website is not intended to replace a one-on-one relationship with a qualified health care professional and is not intended as medical advice. It is intended as a sharing of knowledge and information from the research and experience of Dr. Mercola encourages you to make your own health care decisions based upon your research and in partnership with a qualified health care professional. |