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2004/8/21-22 [Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:33059 Activity:insanely high
8/20    1 of 2 neutral swift boat captains decides to take a side:
        http://csua.org/u/8pc (Yahoo!)
        [Yes, this is new news.]
        \_ How about the actual story he wrote?  Any links?
           \_ My bad, won't show up until Aug 22
        \_ Yes.  Thank you.  SBVT are liars.  Pure and simple.  Can we please
           go back to talking about some real issues now?  Fucks sake this
           country has gone to the pot.
           \_ True --aaron
           \_ Censure, and moveon!!  The American people are tired of this!
        \_ The Sunday Chicago Tribune article from William B. Rood:
           http://csua.org/u?8pf    username/pw:  ih8logins
           \_ He doesn't mention the Special Ops guy who was blown overboard-
              was that the same day?
              \_ I think that was what Kerry got his bronze star for, and
                 Rood wrote about how Kerry got his silver star

[ and ilyas is a moron ]
        \_ We all know they're liars and in it for the money so why do you
           waste your time trying to refute anything?  You only lend them
           undue authority.
        \_ If one familiarizes themselves with the circumstances of
           Kerry's awards several obvious holes become apparent.  Kerry
           and his band have given several different accounts of each story,
           some on the senate floor.  Yes the Swift Vets have a few holes
           in their story (eg. Thurlows citation), but Kerry has many
           more.
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Navy Commander, Journalist, Backs Kerry on Vietnam Aug 21, 12:33 PM (ET) By Carol Giacomo PITTSBURGH (Reuters) - An American journalist who commanded a boat alongside John Kerry in Vietnam broke a 35-year silence on Saturday and defended the Democratic presidential candidate against Republican critics of his military service. Weighing in on what has become the most bitterly divisive issue of the 2004 campaign for the White House, William Rood of the Chicago Tribune said the tales told by Kerry's detractors are untrue. "There were three swift boats on the river that day in Vietnam more than 35 years ago -- three officers and 15 crew members. Only two of those officers remain to talk about what happened on February 28, 1969," he wrote in a story that appeared on the newspaper's Web site on Saturday. "One is John Kerry, the Democratic presidential candidate who won a Silver Star for what happened on that date. Before now, wanting to put memories of war and killing behind him, Rood had refused all requests for interviews on the subject, including from his own newspaper. "But Kerry's critics, armed with stories I know to be untrue, have charged that the accounts of what happened were overblown." "The critics have taken pains to say they're not trying to cast doubts on the merit of what others did, but their version of events has splashed doubt on all of us. "It's gotten harder and harder for those of us who were there to listen to accounts we know to be untrue, especially when they come from people who were not there," he added. Kerry, a former Navy lieutenant, is a highly decorated Vietnam veteran, and his war service is essential to his ability to challenge President Bush on issues of national security and leadership in the face of the Iraq war and terrorism threats. Increasingly, veterans opposed to Kerry and allied with Bush -- led by a group called Swift Boat Veterans for Truth -- have tried to undermine Kerry's service record and credibility and the justification for his medals. In the face of a new CBS poll showing Kerry's support among veterans has slipped since the Democratic convention, the Massachusetts senator has launched an aggressive counterattack. On Friday, Kerry accused the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth of collaborating with the Bush campaign and asked the Federal Election Commission to force the group to withdraw ads challenging his Vietnam service. Bush spent the war in the United States serving in the Texas Air National Guard. Some Democrats have accused Bush of going absent without leave from the guard, citing gaps in his attendance record.
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