8/19    Huge casino proposed in San Pablo.  More to come near Ukiah and Ione.
        Are there similarly-sized casinos planned for SoCal?  Or is this some
        kind of NorCal bias?
        \_ Hints for one in Garden Grove.
        \_ Hints for one in Garden Grove. But not nearly as large.
        \_ They just ruled against this sort of thing (tribe buying land
           in the middle of an urban area, declaring it part of the reservation
           then building a casino) so don't count on it getting done.
           Probably anyone with the money to hire a lawyer can block it.
           \_ You are mistaken in this case. The tribe owns the land already
              and it has been declared their reservation. There is a card club
              there already (oddly enough called the San Pablo Casino). All
              they really needed to do is make a compact with the Gov to be
              official, and even then, there's not much the Gov can do besides
              limit the size of the casino. Current fed and state laws and regs
              are fairly broad about what the tribe can do with the land.
              \_ we need a Bunny Ranch equivalent near the campus for us
                 virginal pale white minions in Soda Hall
                 vaginal pale white minions in Soda Hall
                 \_ Sigh. If you need to go to Nevada and pay the 50% house
                    add-on rate for paid sex, you don't deserve to get laid.
                    \_  what?  are you seriously claiming that the rates
                        in the legalized nevada houses are 50%  higher than
                        equivalent services in the illegal market? bullshit.
                        \_ PLEASE have a flamewar about prostitute prices.
                           The motd is SO in need of spicing up.
                           \_ I can't believe this hasn't blown up into a
                              flame war already.  The relative prices of
                              goods and services that are illegal vs. legal
                              is one of the things that the libertarians
                              are always talking about.
                              \_ You were humiliated once in a motd argument
                                 over government and its use of force.  But
                                 that was a while ago.  Obsessing over it
                                 isn't healthy.  It's time to let go.
              \_ Interesting. How long has this tiny piece of land officially
                 been a "reservation"?
                 \_ John Conner sent a soldier back in time to establish it
                    as Indian land so that the Terminator could build a Casino
                    there.
           \_ whoever has the better lawyer wins. Case in point OJ
              \_ I've dealt personally with some of the lawyers who represent
                 the casino tribes. They didn't strike me as particularly
                 crackerjack in terms of the law but they had a great talent
                 for using huge amounts of cash to fubar what any opposition
                 might be doing. There's a tribe in Death Valley that is still
                 recovering from when the casino people found them a few years
                 ago. -- ulysses
                 \_ Which tribe? What happened to them?