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8/17 http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/223286p-191854c.html Gov. McGreevey: I am married to a woman, and had a gay affair with Cipel, aiding his emmigration from Israel to be with me by giving him a cush homeland security director job although he wasn't qualified. He was going to sue for sexual harrassment unless I paid him $5 million. But he sure is cute. Cipel: It's true! Not only that, I'm straight. All his advances were unwanted! Gay college professor: Cipel had a relationship with me! \_ What is McGreevey's wife's stance on this? I don't see it mentioned in the news. \_ She thinks Cipel's kinda cute too. \_ The wife almost never speaks when a politician is forced to go public as a scumbag cheat of any sort. They "stand by their man" because what else is she going to do if she helps his career go down the drain? He's the gravy train. \_ Did Hillary express support during the Monica scandal? \_ She's still married to him, isn't she? \_ Am I the only one who thinks McGreevey's wife is hot? \_ Yes. \_ I haven't even seen a pic in the news yet. URL please? \_ Pic? \_ There is a shot on Rush Limbaugh's page: http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_081704/content/cutting_edge.guest.h tml http://tinyurl.com/54kj8 \_ Thanks. Hmm, hard to tell from that pic if she's hot. \_ CNN had a pic a few days ago when this was news. She's aged milf at best and that's only with full make-up. \_ Yes, I think waking up to his wife everyday turned him gay. HOTTER!! GAYER!! \_ she might have been hot 20 years ago. \_ homophobic bigot! |
| www.nydailynews.com/front/story/223286p-191854c.html Jim McGreevey attends a homeland security meeting in Trenton yesterday. The New Jersey gay sex scandal took an explosive new turn as a man claiming to be Golan Cipel's lover came forward and reported the affair to aides of Gov. The mystery man, a college professor from northern Jersey, called the governor's office to assert he and Cipel had been romantically involved, sources said. If true, the new lover could blow apart Cipel's claims that he is straight and seriously damage Cipel's credibility as a victim of McGreevey's unwanted sexual advances. The governor's office was taking the claim seriously enough to have private investigators vet the allegations as part of McGreevey's efforts to repel a potential civil suit by Cipel, sources said yesterday. "There have been at least three people coming forward, and this person seems the most credible," a source familiar with the inquiry said. Cipel's lawyer, Allen Lowy, did not return calls for comment. The news came as Cipel went home to Israel to spend time with his family and escape the media glare. Cipel told reporters he was having a very hard time, but he vowed to return to the United States to "make sure justice comes to light." When the scandal first broke, Cipel said he regretted lacking "the strength to disentangle myself from such an oppressive environment and from such a manipulative person." McGreevey's advances," he said the New Jersey governor and his staff tried tosmear him. Yesterday, Cipel's lawyer said the two never hadsexual intercourse but refused to detail the nature of their "contact." The governor fielded no questions yesterday, but his staff called Cipel's claims of abuse "absurd" and a "lie." Christie Whitman, a Republican, added her voice to the growing chorus demanding that McGreevey resign now. She said he simply can't do the job under mounting public pressure and scrutiny. "He should step aside right now," Whitman said, telling Fox News that McGreevey's sin was not a gay extramarital affair, but giving his alleged boyfriend a taxpayer-funded job he was unqualified for. Despite the pressure, McGreevey still plans to resign in November, handing over the reins to state Senate President Richard Codey (D-Union). After meeting with McGreevey yesterday afternoon, Codey said, "He is very firm and resolved to stay until Nov. " Some political watchers said McGreevey was planning to leave early but delayed making the announcement to round up pledges for his legal fees. "People will contribute to McGreevey's legal fees because they like him. To dangle that as a carrot, or think people will withhold that if he doesn't go along with what they want, smells of the worst of Jersey boss politics." McGreevey spent yesterday morning hosting a breakfast at the governor's mansion for some 200 political appointees in his administration. He then met with cabinet members and homeland security advisers at a Trenton hotel about security needed when the Republican convention opens in New York on Aug. |
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And there's bit of Limbaugh echo in this because I want to take you back to last Friday. I just want it known, and I want to remind everybody, that while the gay community was acting happy and proud to get a new prominent political figure as a member, I thought it was a slap in the face at gay people because he's making it out to be he can't serve as governor because he's gay, or because he had this illicit gay affair, and that's not true. coll=sns-ap-nation-headlines" TARGET="_blank">Poll numbers</A> are up two points. Because he's hiding behind the fact that he's gay and he needs to face the truth about this. Listen to a little bit of how Wes Pruden writes about this. He's about to be replaced as the poster boy of the lavender lobby by a has-been from New Jersey. The gays deserve better, and the fact that they're trying to cast Jim McGreevey as a martyr for our times demonstrates how easy they are to please (or how difficult the search is for a genuine martyr in modern America). It's not easy to disgrace New Jersey, where mafia landfills and the criminal trials of public officials are the No. The suspicion grows that buggery has nothing to do with why the governor is trying to get out of Dodge or in this case, Trenton before the posse gallops up behind the sheriff. Who would have thought that a guilty governor could hide from the law behind a cloak of public homosexuality? His name was sprinkled throughout a 47-page indictment of one his pals who is accused of extorting $40,000 from a dairy farmer in the governor's home county, and conspiracy and obstruction of justice charges have been lodged against his chief fund-raiser. His commerce secretary resigned after he was discovered diverting state funds into a company of which he is part owner. Two aides left town last year under cover of a cloud of scandal and suspicion. It's not at all clear how furtive love among the whispering peers, which is after all not necessarily against the law, could make things worse, particularly since Mrs McGreevey appears not to mind. We can be grateful he resisted the temptation to display his small children. In an earlier time and place, politicians similarly run to ground had more shame than to hide from the hangman in the shadows of the aggrieved wife, helpless children, a broken-hearted mother and a father humbled by a son's shame. Many earlier pols would have fled across the Hudson to seek out a tall building. Mrs McGreevey, though smiling bravely, was perhaps consoled by the anticipation of expressing her feelings with something bigger than a lamp or similar heavy object with sharp edges when the family got back to the governor's mansion. Jim McGreevey is a clever politician who may still have a future in New Jersey if the festive media celebration of gay abandon continues. A poll taken over the weekend for the Newark Star-Ledger showed the governor's popularity up 2 points, and the indulgence of bad taste in politicians no doubt extends beyond the Jersey shore. The man the governor describes as the object of the love that dared not speak its name until he spoke up for it says Mr McGreevey is a gay deceiver in more ways than one. He was not a love object, the man says, but a straight arrow put upon by a boss in heat. So the real story may not be gay at all, or even cheerful. jpg" align="left" border="0"> That's extremely well written, but it's right on point, too. No doubt it's all true, don't misunderstand, but he's using it as a cover. And you go back to last Friday when we first heard about this, Thursday afternoon and Friday we talked about it on this program. I'm here to tell you if he's not facing this, he's only facing further and further humiliation and devastation and disappointment till he can get around to really coming clean because the guy is a mess. And if he's not being honest with himself about all this, much less anybody else, he's just continuing to live a lie, and that doesn't help anyone, including him. Republicans are still on the warpath to get him to resign earlier than November 15th. The Republicans, oh, yeah, those rascally Republicans still out there still trying to get McGreevey to step down and have their special election. Well, guess who else is pushing for this, and guess who else escaped mention in all this on TV this morning? That would have been the Democrats in New Jersey, and there's a battle going on between Democrats in New Jersey and Democrats in Washington. html" TARGET="_blank">New York Times</A> today: McGreevey hunkers down but exit pressure grows. James E McGreevey's immediate resignation grew on Monday as Democratic leaders and representatives of labor, environmental and other groups prepared to talk to Senator Jon S Corzine this week to discuss his possible candidacy in a special election this fall." They can say what all they want to say out there, that the Republicans are mobilized behind this, it's the Democrats trying to make this happen. This is a Democratic official speaking on condition of anonymity to the New York Times. "Mr Corzine has indicated that while he will not pressure Mr McGreevey to leave, he would run if drafted by the party." Sure, I'll run, if McGreevey clears town, sure I'll run. A leader of one statewide advocacy group said that Mr Corzine called him on Friday to arrange a conversation on Tuesday, and that the senator's aides had called at least half a dozen others with similar requests. Democrats have identified Mr Corzine's strongest supporters as United States Representative Robert E Menendez of Hudson County, believed to be in line for Mr Corzine's Senate seat; John Lynch, the Middlesex County Democratic leader, and George E Norcross III, a powerful South Jersey leader and political enemy of Mr Codey's." jpg" align="right" border="0"> This is another anonymous source in the Republican Party speaking to the New York Times. "If the Democratic machine works the way it usually works, he's gone by the end of the week." If the Democrat machine works the way it usually works, he's gone by the end of this week, but if this is McGreevey's last chance to tell the bosses to kiss off, figuratively, not literally here, then that's something else. So, we're going to have a battle between the bosses and McGreevey, the bosses want him out this week. We were joking last week that this might have some entanglemen... |
| tinyurl.com/54kj8 -> www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_081704/content/cutting_edge.guest.html Washington Times today, just a really good piece on all this. And there's bit of Limbaugh echo in this because I want to take you back to last Friday. I just want it known, and I want to remind everybody, that while the gay community was acting happy and proud to get a new prominent political figure as a member, I thought it was a slap in the face at gay people because he's making it out to be he can't serve as governor because he's gay, or because he had this illicit gay affair, and that's not true. Listen to a little bit of how Wes Pruden writes about this. He's about to be replaced as the poster boy of the lavender lobby by a has-been from New Jersey. The gays deserve better, and the fact that they're trying to cast Jim McGreevey as a martyr for our times demonstrates how easy they are to please (or how difficult the search is for a genuine martyr in modern America). It's not easy to disgrace New Jersey, where mafia landfills and the criminal trials of public officials are the No. "It's not easy to disgrace New Jersey, where mafia landfills and the criminal trials of public officials are the No. The suspicion grows that buggery has nothing to do with why the governor is trying to get out of Dodge or in this case, Trenton before the posse gallops up behind the sheriff. Who would have thought that a guilty governor could hide from the law behind a cloak of public homosexuality? His name was sprinkled throughout a 47-page indictment of one his pals who is accused of extorting $40,000 from a dairy farmer in the governor's home county, and conspiracy and obstruction of justice charges have been lodged against his chief fund-raiser. His commerce secretary resigned after he was discovered diverting state funds into a company of which he is part owner. Two aides left town last year under cover of a cloud of scandal and suspicion. It's not at all clear how furtive love among the whispering peers, which is after all not necessarily against the law, could make things worse, particularly since Mrs McGreevey appears not to mind. "The governor, in the great tradition of guilty politicians straight, narrow and otherwise, put the obliging missus on display for public humiliation at his press conference, together with his parents, in a show of grim familial solidarity. We can be grateful he resisted the temptation to display his small children. In an earlier time and place, politicians similarly run to ground had more shame than to hide from the hangman in the shadows of the aggrieved wife, helpless children, a broken-hearted mother and a father humbled by a son's shame. Many earlier pols would have fled across the Hudson to seek out a tall building. Mrs McGreevey, though smiling bravely, was perhaps consoled by the anticipation of expressing her feelings with something bigger than a lamp or similar heavy object with sharp edges when the family got back to the governor's mansion. Jim McGreevey is a clever politician who may still have a future in New Jersey if the festive media celebration of gay abandon continues. A poll taken over the weekend for the Newark Star-Ledger showed the governor's popularity up 2 points, and the indulgence of bad taste in politicians no doubt extends beyond the Jersey shore. "The New York Times published several sympathetic accounts of how the governor 'struggles' with his 'tortured identity,' and the interlocutors and end men of the weekend's television shove-and-shout shows fell all over themselves to get on the side of the fashionable devils Mr McGreevey says have taunted him from childhood all through his marriages to unsuspecting women. The man the governor describes as the object of the love that dared not speak its name until he spoke up for it says Mr McGreevey is a gay deceiver in more ways than one. He was not a love object, the man says, but a straight arrow put upon by a boss in heat. So the real story may not be gay at all, or even cheerful. The real story may yet be told to a jury that will be less intimidated by cries of 'homophobia' than by the consequences of allowing guilty politicians to go unpunished." That's extremely well written, but it's right on point, too. No doubt it's all true, don't misunderstand, but he's using it as a cover. And you go back to last Friday when we first heard about this, Thursday afternoon and Friday we talked about it on this program. I'm here to tell you if he's not facing this, he's only facing further and further humiliation and devastation and disappointment till he can get around to really coming clean because the guy is a mess. And if he's not being honest with himself about all this, much less anybody else, he's just continuing to live a lie, and that doesn't help anyone, including him. Republicans are still on the warpath to get him to resign earlier than November 15th. The Republicans, oh, yeah, those rascally Republicans still out there still trying to get McGreevey to step down and have their special election. Well, guess who else is pushing for this, and guess who else escaped mention in all this on TV this morning? That would have been the Democrats in New Jersey, and there's a battle going on between Democrats in New Jersey and Democrats in Washington. New York Times today: McGreevey hunkers down but exit pressure grows. James E McGreevey's immediate resignation grew on Monday as Democratic leaders and representatives of labor, environmental and other groups prepared to talk to Senator Jon S Corzine this week to discuss his possible candidacy in a special election this fall." They can say what all they want to say out there, that the Republicans are mobilized behind this, it's the Democrats trying to make this happen. This is a Democratic official speaking on condition of anonymity to the New York Times. "Mr Corzine has indicated that while he will not pressure Mr McGreevey to leave, he would run if drafted by the party." Sure, I'll run, if McGreevey clears town, sure I'll run. "Many theorize that Mr Corzine is organizing that draft. A leader of one statewide advocacy group said that Mr Corzine called him on Friday to arrange a conversation on Tuesday, and that the senator's aides had called at least half a dozen others with similar requests. Democrats have identified Mr Corzine's strongest supporters as United States Representative Robert E Menendez of Hudson County, believed to be in line for Mr Corzine's Senate seat; John Lynch, the Middlesex County Democratic leader, and George E Norcross III, a powerful South Jersey leader and political enemy of Mr Codey's." This is another anonymous source in the Republican Party speaking to the New York Times. "If the Democratic machine works the way it usually works, he's gone by the end of the week." If the Democrat machine works the way it usually works, he's gone by the end of this week, but if this is McGreevey's last chance to tell the bosses to kiss off, figuratively, not literally here, then that's something else. So, we're going to have a battle between the bosses and McGreevey, the bosses want him out this week. We were joking last week that this might have some entanglement with The Torch, Bob Torricelli. New York Times today says the inquiry is said to be focused on a plan for Touro College, a New York City institution that has been unsuccessfully seeking to open a medical facility in New Jersey. Just ten minutes before McGreevey was scheduled to announce his resignation last Thursday a member of his inner circle received a phone call from a lawyer who identified himself as an intermediary for Golan Cipel. The caller reportedly said that Cipel would agree not to go public with the charges if McGreevey granted a charter to Touro College, a New York City institution once a medical facility in New Jersey. In its effort to get approval of a charter, Touro was represented by Bob Torricelli who now works as a political consultant. Well, you can put two and two together and come up with four on this one, folks. The Torch, playing some kind of role in the effort to get McGreevey. |