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8/14    Norman Podhoretz, "World War IV: How it Started, What it Means, and
        Why We Have to Win". http://www.commentarymagazine.com/podhoretz.htm
        The reason I post this is not because I believe or disbelieve his
        historical world view.  The reason to read this is to get an all-in-one
        -place summary of every terrorist attack going back to the 70s.  I
        found the number of attacks shocking.  I knew about each one but I have
        never seen them together like this.
        \_ Good article, a few serious errors though (ex.: Khomeini's
           motivation to not have the Soviet embassy stormed--USSR was not
           a major sponsor of the Shah.)  Also, he makes a common mistake--
           "sneers and jeers" are not directed at the Bush speech use of
           "good" and "evil", but rather at ham-fisted and faulty (and
           dishonest and ineffective) response to these.  -John
        \_  You haven't read the 9/11 commission report, have you?  read it.
            everything in your article is covered in much greater detail, and
            without the partisan noise.  Pundits love to trash the 9/11
            report because if people actually read stuff like that they'd
            be out of a job(which they should be.)
            ok, i retract my attack on your article; it's actually pretty
            interesting.  Everyone should still read the 9/11 report.
            \_ I didn't read the report, true.  Is there a historical summary
               of events section?  It's not my article.  I'm just posting for
               the historical summary part.  I don't accept or deny the rest
               of it.  -op
               \_ read it. seriously.  All the pundits are trying to spin it
                  as being useless because it doens't trash the politician
                  they hate(be it clinton or bush), but just sticks to the
                  facts.  It gives all the historical background on the
                  attacks in your article, all kinds of background info
                  on al qaeda, lots of relevant information on how the structure
                  of our government is or isn't set up to deal with terrorism,
                  and some basic American history that everyone should
                  know but probably most people don't.  And that's just from
                  the first five chapters i've read so far.  It also gives
                  a blow-by-blow narrative of *exactly* what happened on 9-11-01
                  that I don't think you'll find anywhere else.
                  http://www.gpoaccess.gov/911
        \_ Good article, thank you. -- ilyas
        \_ [ troll gone ]
        \_ "What Clarke for all practical purposes did--both at the hearings
           and in his hot-off-the-press book, Against All Enemies--was to blame
           Bush, who had been in office for a mere eight months when the attack
           occurred, while exonerating Clinton, who had spent eight long years
           doing little of any significance in response to the series of
           terrorist assaults on American targets in various parts of the world
           that were launched on his watch."
           Clarke did blame Bush, but the rest is flat-out wrong.  You guys
           should all know this when you read it.

It's so sad that Americans still don't get it.  What
           happened to
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Commentary September 2004 World War IV: How It Started, What It Means, and Why We Have to Win Norman Podhoretz A Note to the Reader This past spring, when it seemed that everything that could go wrong in Iraq was going wrong, a plague of amnesia began sweeping through the country. Caught up in the particulars with which we were being assaulted 24 hours a day, we seemed to have lost sight of the context in which such details could be measured and understood and related to one another. Small things became large, large things became invisible, and hysteria filled the air. Since then, of course, and especially after the hand over of authority on June 30 to an interim Iraqi government, matters have become more complicated. But the relentless pressure of events, and the continuing onslaught both of details and of their often tendentious or partisan interpretation, have hardly let up at all. It is for this reason that, in what follows, I have tried to step back from the daily barrage and to piece together the story of what this nation has been fighting to accomplish since September 11, 2001. In doing this, I have drawn freely from my own past writings on the subject, and especially from three articles that appeared in these pages two or more years ago1 In some instances, I have woven sections of these articles into a new setting; Telling the story properly has required more than a straight narrative leading from 9/11 to the time of writing. For one thing, I have had to interrupt the narrative repeatedly in order to confront and clear away the many misconceptions, distortions, and outright falsifications that have been perpetrated. In addition, I have had to broaden the perspective so as to make it possible to see why the great struggle into which the United States was plunged by 9/11 can only be understood if we think of it as World War IV. My hope is that telling the story from this perspective and in these ways will demonstrate that the road we have taken since 9/11 is the only safe course for us to follow. As we proceed along this course, questions will inevitably arise as to whether this or that move was necessary or right; and such questions will breed hesitations and even demands that we withdraw from the field. Some of this happened even in World War II, perhaps the most popular war the United States has ever fought, and much more of it in World War III (that is, the cold war); and now it is happening again, notably with respect to Iraq. But as I will attempt to show, we are only in the very early stages of what promises to be a very long war, and Iraq is only the second front to have been opened in that war: the second scene, so to speak, of the first act of a five-act play. 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It is this, then, that (to paraphrase George W Bush and a long string of his predecessors, Republican and Democratic alike) we in our turn, no less than the "greatest generation" of the 1940s and its spiritual progeny of the 1950s and after, have a responsibility to uphold and are privileged to defend. Out of the Blue The attack came, both literally and metaphorically, like a bolt out of the blue. Literally, in that the hijacked planes that crashed into the twin towers of the World Trade Center on the morning of September 11, 2001 had been flying in a cloudless sky so blue that it seemed unreal. I happened to be on jury duty that day, in a courthouse only a half-mile from what would soon be known as Ground Zero. Some time after the planes reached their targets, we all poured into the streetjust as the second tower collapsed. 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Home Page > 9-11 Commission Final Report The 9-11 Commission Report Final Report of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, Official Government Edition Cover of the Final Report of the 9-11 Commission. The Commission's Final Report provides a full and complete account of the circumstances surrounding the September 11th, 2001, terrorist attacks, including preparedness for and the immediate response to the attacks. It also includes recommendations designed to guard against future attacks. Below you will find the official Government edition of the Final Report of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States. Full Report (23 MB, 585 pages) has been made available in its entirety, as a single PDF file. In response to comments from the community, GPO has refined the Full Report as an improved, interactive, user-friendly PDF, optimized for screen-viewing. GPO has also decreased the file size to a mere 23 MB The report is also available as a collection of smaller PDFs arranged in a browse table based on the Final Report's table of contents. Preface 48 KB 4 1 "We Have Some Planes" * 11 Inside the Four Flights * 12 Improvising a Homeland Defense * 13 National Crisis Management 831 KB 46 2 The Foundation of the New Terrorism * 21 A Declaration of War * 22 Bin Ladin's Appeal in the Islamic World * 23 The Rise of Bin Ladin and al Qaeda (1988-1992) * 24 Building an Organization, Declaring War on the United States (1992-1996) * 25 Al Qaeda's Renewal in Afghanistan (1996-1998) 724 KB 24 3 Counterterrorism Evolves * 31 From the Old Terrorism to the New: The First World Trade Center Bombing * 32 Adaptation--and Nonadaptation--in the Law Enforcement Community * 33 ... and in the State Department and the Defense Department * 36 ... and in the Congress 267 KB 37 4 Responses to Al Qaeda's Initial Assaults * 41 Before the Bombings in Kenya and Tanzania * 42 Crisis: August 1998 * 43 Diplomacy * 44 Covert Action * 45 Searching for Fresh Options 274 KB 37 5 Al Qaeda Aims at the American Homeland * 51 Terrorist Entrepreneurs * 52 The "Planes Operation" * 53 The Hamburg Contingent * 54 A Money Trail?