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2004/8/13 [Politics/Domestic/California/Arnold] UID:32877 Activity:high
8/12    Ah-nold keeps his distance from GW Bush (Bush was in Santa Monica
        on Thursday), won't campaign for him outside of state (though he will
        speak at the RNC):
        http://csua.org/u/8l0 (usatoday.com)
        And you know what?  I know exactly why.  Can you guess?
        \_  Why don't you tell us?
           \_ The answer is:  Maria Shriver.  Think about it. -op
              \_ Could you spell it out for me?
        \_ Because Arnold is busy spending his time here in CA where we need
           a governor and this is the state where Arnold can do the most good
           for Bush?   Unlike a certain Senator who is running for President
           but has missed 70% of the votes this year, Arnold puts his
           responsibilities to the people first.  That's what you were going
           to tell us.
           \_ but of course Bush can do his job while travelling just as much
              as Kerry.
              \_ It's a different job so yes, he can.  And until very recently,
                 no he has not traveled anywhere close to as much as Kerry has
                 for a year.
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The Arnold factor By Judy Keen, USA TODAY Arnold Schwarzenegger should be one of President Bush's secret weapons this fall. He's a popular and charismatic Republican governor with star power, a Kennedy wife and appeal to Democrats in his home state of California and beyond. Instead, the "Arnold factor" in this campaign may come down to political body language. By David Paul Morris, Getty Images Will the two macho politicians, whose relationship has sometimes been strained, be able to convince California voters that they are on the same page when they differ on many cultural issues and Schwarzenegger is balking at campaigning for Bush outside his state? Will Californians see the warm chemistry of John Kerry and John Edwards, or the dtente Bush has reached with former rival John McCain? Although Kerry has double-digit leads in recent polls, Bush allies still think Schwarzenegger's clout could turn things around. He's the state's most popular governor in almost 30 years with an approval rating of 65%, according to a Field Poll released Tuesday. "Nothing is more important to us in the Bush campaign than Arnold Schwarzenegger's success. Nothing," says Gerry Parsky, chairman of Bush's California campaign. But the relationship between the two camps has been tense. Some of the governor's advisers remain miffed that Bush did not give Schwarzenegger much help in the 2003 campaign and say the administration has been slow to help the state with its budget problems. Schwarzenegger will have a prime-time speaking slot at the Republican convention. He'll appear with Bush this Thursday at a GOP fundraiser in Santa Monica. The Bush campaign would love to put Schwarzenegger onstage with the president in closely contested states, but Schwarzenegger says he won't be able to campaign outside California. "Since I'm governor now, I have to really work for the state of California," he told National Public Radio last week. Schwarzenegger is close to the first President Bush, who made the bodybuilder-actor head of his Council on Physical Fitness. Last month, when the senior Bush passed through Sacramento, Schwarzenegger visited his mentor. But the former president, who tries to stay out of his son's way, is not playing intermediary. "The governor will do anything he can to help" except campaign for Bush outside the state, says Pat Clarey, Schwarzenegger's chief of staff. "They have developed a friendship," says Karl Rove, Bush's top political adviser. "It's true that early on, the Bush White House was not enthusiastically supportive of the recall process," says Rep. David Dreier, a California Republican who chaired Schwarzenegger's campaign and co-chairs Bush's California effort. "People have a tendency to really exaggerate this schism. Advisers to both say the climate has improved in the past couple months -- an acknowledgment that things haven't always been great. Schwarzenegger's aides note that the governor sent flowers to Bush for his birthday last month and they had a friendly chat when Bush called to say thanks. Differing opinions Competing priorities and real or perceived grievances are an obstacle to an alliance that might have given Bush a chance to capitalize on Schwarzenegger's appeal: Schwarzenegger led a successful 2002 fight for passage of a California ballot proposal to fund public schools' after-school programs. Bush's 2004 budget proposed cutting funds for such programs. Schwarzenegger testified against the cuts in Congress, which restored some money. When California activists got enough signatures to schedule a recall election, aiming to oust Democratic Gov. Gray Davis, Schwarzenegger said he was thinking about joining the list of candidates to replace him. Schwarzenegger advisers, who wouldn't be identified because of the touchiness of the subject, say he wanted Bush's support before announcing he'd run. The day after the announcement, Bush said only that the actor would "be a good governor." When he was asked if he would campaign for Schwarzenegger, Bush avoided a direct answer. "I will never arm-wrestle Arnold Schwarzenegger," he said. "I'm confident the citizens of California will sort all this out." It's difficult to know whether Schwarzenegger wanted Bush's help and didn't get it or whether his advisers believed he would be better off if Bush kept his distance. A high-ranking Bush adviser who refused to be quoted by name because of the sensitivity of the relationship says Schwarzenegger's aides didn't want Bush to have a prominent role. They "told us it was vital for him to be seen as unconnected to Republican or national politics," the adviser says. 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