Berkeley CSUA MOTD:Entry 32849
Berkeley CSUA MOTD
 
WIKI | FAQ | Tech FAQ
http://csua.com/feed/
2019/08/19 [General] UID:1000 Activity:popular
8/19    

2004/8/12 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:32849 Activity:insanely high
8/12    Why is "tabbed browsing" in Mozilla a good feature.  I've always been
        able to open new windows in NS or IE by Ctrl-N or right-clicking and
        choose "Open in new window".
        \_ All your sites stay in the same window.  Try opening 20 windows
           in IE and then 20 tabs in mozilla.  I don't understand why you
           would even use NS when it is just the mozilla code with extra bad
           and useless advertising crap and minus some of mozilla's better
           features.  Try it, you'll like it.
           \_ Ads come from web pages, not a browser, right?
              \_ Mozilla doesn't have a "SHOP" button, right next to the
                 "STOP" button, unlike IE, so no, wrong in this context.
           \_ Also, it's a lot faster to open 20 tabs than 20 windows. And
              you can have the tabs loading in the background, whereas
              new windows will steal focus from your old one.
           \_ I'm using NS 7.1 because it's been out there for a long time
              (1yr?) and I thought that means it's more stable and fewer
              security holes.  Whereas Mozilla keeps on having new releases, so
              it seems less stable.
              \_ You are sadly misguided. Netscape is basically just a
                 snapshot of Mozilla at one moment in time, and from that
                 they put in some "value-added" crap. So you could just get
                 the release of Mozilla that your Netscape is derived from.
                 Look on the about page for the build date.
                 \_ Geez.  I'm ditching NS now!  Thx.
        \_ it's a preference thing. for me, it's cleaner to have all my pages
           in one window. wanna minimize everything? you just have to minimize
           one window. not everyone needs the feature though.
        \_ I use both tabs and multiple windows; each window contains several
           tabs with related pages.  It's a lot easier to manage than the
           10+ windows I'd have open otherwise.  -tom
           \_ Yes, tabbed browsing is used most by non-degreed government
              employees, followed closely by time spent on the wall, time
              spent on the motd, then lunch, then smoke break, and somewhere
              below clock watching, work.
              \_ get a life.
                 \_ ouch!  that was stinging! what a zinger!
        \_ It's even better in Opera IMO.  Mostly because if you close Opera
           (or even if it crashes) when you start again all your pages are
           still there.
           \_ Opera: $$$.  Mozilla: no $$$.
           \_ Is there a FireFox extension that emulates this?
              \_ crash recovery - http://recall.mozdev.org. I believe there's also
                 one that autosaves/remembers on start, but I haven't used it
                 -dwc
                 \_ Call me when it's no longer an extension.
                    \_ As if it matters.  Why do you care?  You want a giant
                       monolithic piece of crap with everything complied in?
                       Microsoft has the perfect browser for you!
                       \_ No, I'm not looking for emacs.  Opera for Win32 is a
                          whopping 3.4 MB download.  I hardly call that
                          monolithic.
                          \_ And it doesn't have the same feature set as
                             Mozilla.
           \_ Also, an irritation of Mozilla is that when you close a tab, you
              get dumped into the rightmost tab.  Opera allows you to cycle
              through MRU order.  Oh, and you can move tabs around easily.  And
              if you have multiple frames, it's easy to move tabs from one
              frame to another.
                \_ I like the right tab focus.  I just read tabs right to left
                   and open them in reverse order of interest.
                \_ there are a couple nice extensions that allow you to do
                   things like this in mozilla/firefox as well...
                   \_ Call me when they're no longer extensions.
                      \_ Um... the whole POINT is that they're extensions, and
                         will never be integrated.  Make the core product fast,
                         and let users add the additions that they want...
                         \_ Great.  Will I have to download a plugin to use the
                            cursor keys to navigate a page up and down?  Sorry,
                            if you have tabbed browsing, you need some ability
                            to use those tabs effectively.  Opera is
                            light-years ahead of Mozilla on this.
                            \_ Call me when Opera costs the same as Mozilla.
                            \_ I navigate with the cursor keys all the time.
                               \_ Why is that not a plugin?!  Those Moz
                                  hypocrites--integrating that as a feature
                                  instead of leaving it as a plugin.
                                  \_ Why is free-as-in-beer not a feature of
                                     Opera?  Why do they have to plug-in to my
                                     wallet to get a slightly different version
                                     of tabbed browsing?
                                     \_ I have no problem paying for superior
                                        software.  If you're happy with
                                        inferior-but-free-as-in-beer tools,
                                        more power to you.
                                        \_ Superior?  Opera is going to make
                                           my life better than Mozilla enough
                                           to pay for it?  Which stock market
                                           did you get your money in?
        \_ Tab browsing makes it easier to follow threads in mailing lists.
           You know that each of the tabs following the current on are
           replies in the thread you are reading.
        \_ I used to be annoyed by tabs; I liked Ctrl-N a lot.  Now I love
           tabs and I use Ctrl-T and middle-click all the time.  Mainly a new
           window opening up is just slower, and the saved start bar real
           estate is great.
           \_ Seconded.  Tabs wierded me out for quite a while, but they really
           \_ Seconded.  Tabs weirded me out for quite a while, but they really
              are quite convenient, for reasons of window managability, screen
              real estate, nd background loading.  On the rare occasions I want
              to compare 2 pages side-by-side, there's still Ctrl-N.
              to compare 2 pages side-by-side, there's still Ctrl-N. [spelld]
           \_ Is there a way to configure Mozilla to always open links in
              a new tab when you click (accidentailly) on a link that would
              otherwise open a new window?? I don't always want to hold down
              ctrl key when I am pressing the mouse button...
              \_ Middle mouse button.  It's in the preferences.
                 \_ Middle button always opens a new tab. I want to
                    open a new tab only if the link would open a new
                    window. Kind of override new window with new tab
                    feature.
                    \_ check out the tabbrowser extensions
                    \_ check about:config, browser.tabs.opentabfor.windowopen
2019/08/19 [General] UID:1000 Activity:popular
8/19    

You may also be interested in these entries...
2012/5/18-7/20 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:54392 Activity:nil
5/18    On my Win7 machine, I've been using a PuTTY ssh session to soda as a
        proxy for my FireFox to bypass my company's OpenDNS when I visit
        http://tv.yahoo.com and so on.  It has been working fine for a long while.
        However, in the past couple weeks or so, my FireFox would either take
        several minutes to load the page, or failes to load it after several
        minutes.  I haven't changed any settings on my Win7 machine.  Rebooting
	...
2012/4/23-6/1 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:54360 Activity:nil
4/19    My Firefox 3.6.28 pops up a Software Update box that reads "Your
        version of Firefox will soon be vulnerable to online attacks."  Are
        they planning to turn off some security feature in my version of
        Firefox?
        \_ Not as such, no, but they're no longer developing this version,
           so if a 3.6.x-targeted hack shows up, you're not going to get
	...
2012/2/5-3/26 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:54300 Activity:nil
2/5     How is Firefox on version 10, while I still have 3.6 installed.
        I wait for the X.1 versions and they never come out.
        \_ I'm also on 3.6.26.  It claims that versions 4 - 10 are all faster
           than 3.6.x, but do they use more memory?  Thx.
           \_ Newer Firefox versions use less memory too:
              http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/mozillas_memshrink_program_brings_big_memory_savings_firefox_7
	...
2011/5/9-7/30 [Computer/SW/OS, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:54105 Activity:nil
5/4     chrome sandbox broken? http://www.bit.ly/ktdH0R
        \_ Google claims the veector is through a 3rd party plugin so it
           "doesn't count"
	...
2010/9/13-30 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:53956 Activity:nil
9/13    Blah blah android blah, ok other than the bootjack stomp of the
        phone marketing crap of this, does anyone know where to find the old
        Android TCL scripting framework that was used for automating
        and controlling desktop apps (like mozilla for example). Thx.
	...
2010/2/18-3/9 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:53713 Activity:nil
2/18    Why is there now Firefox 3.5.8 when there was already 3.6 a month ago?
        \_ Why is there Windows XP SP3 when there was already Vista?
           Generally companies manage patches for at least two levels of
           product.  -tom
           \_ I see.  So Fx 3.6 is more like a new version than an update to
              3.5.x.  --- OP
	...
2010/2/8-18 [Computer/SW/Apps, Computer/SW/Apps/Media] UID:53695 Activity:kinda low
2/5     I like Adobe Flash. When written correctly, it scales along
        with your browser size. It looks consistent on every single
        browser. It is predictable. On the other hand, I'm not a big
        fan of CSS/HTML, which for the most part, look wildly different
        between browsers, and don't even work consistently or
        correctly at times. So why do so many people (like Steve Jobs)
	...
2010/1/11-25 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:53625 Activity:nil
12/9    Does anyone know when Firefox will support Win7?  I can't find a
        roadmap page on http://mozilla.org.  Thx.
	...
2009/12/13-2010/1/13 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:53593 Activity:nil
12/12   http://www.axiis.org/examples/BrowserMarketShare.html#
        An unusual visualization of browser market share from 2002-now
        \_ 1. Is it coincidence that it looks so much like the Firefox logo?
           2. Is Chrome eating away Firefox's share?
           \_ Chrome's user base is pretty much the same user base
              as Firefox user base, and to some extent, Safari. The
	...
2009/12/2-9 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:53556 Activity:nil
12/2    IE usage down but still kicking the majority ass. Chrome is also
        rising up high, almost at the Safari level. Firefox isn't
        doing badly either. Sorry Opera, you had your chance.
        http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2009/12/november-2009-browser-stats-ie8-passes-ie7.ars
        \_ As long  as Opera is the only browser you can use on your Wii,
           I see a fine long life ahead of it.
	...
2009/11/27-12/6 [Computer/SW/OS/OsX] UID:53546 Activity:low
11/27   What did you guys buy on Black Friday?
        \_ cold medicine
           \_ me too!
        \_ Nothing.
        \_ I bought a Mac Air for my wife when Mac Mall announced their
           "Black Friday sale" on Wednesday. But that was technically not
	...
Cache (138 bytes)
recall.mozdev.org
Bugs The Recall project is a crash recovery feature for Mozilla, restoring browser windows and tabs persisted from your pre crash session.