Berkeley CSUA MOTD:Entry 32832
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2004/8/11 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush, Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:32832 Activity:high
8/11    Kerry states he was in Cambodia multiple times, and compares
        himself to Martin Sheen in Apocalypse Now.  Nevermind
        Kerry's swift boat was 50' long.
        \_ Why do you read Instapundit? The guy has been so wrong so
           many times and he never admits or corrects his mistakes.
           \_ Hitler? Ok.
        \_ Tet 1969 would actually fit his story perfectly. We started
           bombing Cambodia in March 1969, I am sure we sent in some
           guys undercover to do recon just before that. Did Nixon
           make some speech like that during Tet?
           \_ Tet was Jan of 1968.
              \_ Tet is every year. It is a Vietnamese holiday similar
                 to Christmas or Chinese New Year.
                 \_ Oh, a wiseguy, eh?
                    \_ I am just telling you the truth. You can't handle
                       the truth!
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Main August 11, 2004 KERRY/CAMBODIA UPDATE: I promised a while back to see if I could get a look at the Boston Herald story -- where Kerry says he remembers spending Christmas, 1968 in Cambodia and hearing President Nixon deny that troops were there -- in original form. Sorry it's a bit hard to read: it's a scan of a fax of a photocopy of a microfilm, sent to me by a helpful reader who works at the Herald. here -- which is all about Kerry's Vietnam experiences as they relate to Francis Ford Coppola's Apocalypse Now. Unlike Al Gore and Love Story, Kerry doesn't claim that the movie is about him -- but he sure draws parallels. In fact, the passage that everyone has been quoting actually reads like this, when you include the prior sentence that people haven't been including: On more than one occasion, I, like Martin Sheen in "Apocalypse Now," took my patrol boat into Cambodia In fact, I remember spending Christmas Day of 1968 five miles across the Cambodian border being shot at by our South Vietnamese Allies who were drunk and celebrating Christmas. The absurdity of almost being killed by our own allies in a country in which President Nixon claimed there were no American troops was very real. But nowhere in "Apocalypse Now" did I sense that kind of absurdity. So Kerry's Vietnam experience was like Apocalypse Now, only it was more so. How much this adds to the debate isn't clear to me -- but in case anyone was doubting the provenance of this particular quotation, well, I'm satisfied now that its authenticity, if not its veracity, is pretty clear. Presumably, some big-time journalists are even now interviewing people and combing the records to see if this version of Kerry's 1968 Christmas was correct. UPDATE: Reader Garnet Girl emails: If Kerry really wants to avoid talking about Cambodia, he probably ought to take the word out of the meta tag on his service page. here and click "view source" you'll see this: meta name=target content="military record, cambodia, vietnam, military service" Bizarre. posted at 02:29 PM by Glenn Reynolds If you've got a modem, I've got an opinion!
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"My father was a Nazi soldier and he realized during the war what he and most of his generation was led into. I have learned from him that a nation can be guilty and that we must stop the arrogance of the powers at the very beginning. To me, America is becoming truly scary and the parallels to the development in Germany of the thirties (although the reason behind it are totally different) are sickening. The world is waiting for signs of opposition in the Unilateral States of America!" Herr Moellers' e-mail is typical of a half dozen or so I've received over the past year from people with intimate knowledge of Nazi Germany. I respect experience, so I'm inclined to believe what these people are telling me. The GOP and the Nazis: There are similarities and, no, I will not apologize During the 1930s, the famous writer HG Wells was rebuked by the conservatives of his day for comparing Hitler to Caesar and suggesting that Hitler was a "certifiable lunatic." Those of us who see a creeping fascism with Bush and his cronies will, one day, be vindicated by the muses of history. Hitler Although the quest for or preservation of "democracy" is often used as a justification for war, history has incessantly revealed that such a quest is often little more than a thinly-veiled attempt to install a puppet regime. Hitler, Part II The basic stratagem of these so-called "critics" is to compartmentalize Hitler's legacy into a simplistic formula: Hitler created the horrors of the Holocaust and since Bush (the argument goes) has not created a Holocaust, Bush is not comparable to Hitler. What this formula fails to acknowledge, however, is that Hitler was not created in a vacuum, and he did not ignite the horrors of the Holocaust until he had corruptly obtained the political power to do so. It was the manner in which he attained this power that is analogous to the political machinations of the Bush dictatorship. 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Nor, unlike Volkswagen supporter Hitler, does he promote the production of small, cheap cars. org "Bush in 30 Seconds" ad campaign, which featured two submissions that likened President Bush to Adolph Hitler. While there continues to be widespread and negative media attention -- orchestrated in large part by the Republican National Committee and Anti-Defamation League -- in response to the two 30-second segments on MoveOn, there as yet exists no response to, or coverage of, The New York Post's decision to publish Peters' invective. Fascism and the Republican Party Both Democrats and Republicans are corporate-controlled parties. However, the Republicans have a deeper historical involvement with fascist indviduals and groups from World War 2, including former SS officers. When Nazi troops conquered the Eastern European countries, they found and nurtured fascist parties like the Romanian Iron Guard, Hungarian Arrow Cross, Croatian Ustashi, Bulgarian Legion, Latvian Legion, Byelorussian Belarus Brigade, Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists and Cossack SS officers. These fascists helped the Nazis carry on their atrocities, such as the extermination of Jews, communists, Gypsies, disabled people and others considered to be undesirable. Also, they formed Waffen SS divisions to fight against the Soviet Union. When Democracy Failed: The Warnings of History Playing on this new nationalism, and exploiting a disagreement with the French over his increasing militarism, he argued that any international body that didn't act first and foremost in the best interest of his own nation was neither relevant nor useful. He thus withdrew his country from the League Of Nations in October, 1933, and then negotiated a separate naval armaments agreement with Anthony Eden of The United Kingdom to create a worldwide military ruling elite. His propaganda minister orchestrated a campaign to ensure the people that he was a deeply religious man and that his motivations were rooted in Christianity. He even proclaimed the need for a revival of the Christian faith across his nation, what he called a "New Christianity." Every man in his rapidly growing army wore a belt buckle that declared "Gott Mit Uns" - God Is With Us - and most of them fervently believed it was true. Siege Heil: The Bush-Rove-Schwarzenegger Nazi Nexus and the Destabilization of California George W Bush's grandfather helped finance the Nazi Party. Karl Rove's grandfather allegedly helped run the Nazi Party, and helped build the Birkenau Death Camp. 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Bush family funded Adolf Hitler The UBC, under Prescott Bushs direction and with the long-term cooperation of Fritz Thyssens German Steel Trust participated in the emergence, preparation and financing of the Nazi war machine through the manufacture of armored vehicles, fighter planes, guns and explosives. The Bush familys habit of dominating territories and wealth is nothing new. Therefore defining the occupation of Afghanistan and Iraq and the threats to other countries as a continuance of blitzkreig offensives as fascist is no blunder. Neither is convening an anti-fascist front is a rhetorical exercise. In Light of IBM, Will GW Bush Admit His Own Nazi Connection? Now that IBM, one of Americas' most respected corporations, has been exposed as an enthusiastic ally of Nazi Germany whose technology helped make the Holocaust possible it seems timely to ask, when will GW Bush publicly deal with his families' numerous links to the Third Reich? 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