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2004/8/8-9 [Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:32769 Activity:insanely high
8/8     So in an effort to rise above the partisan bickering, let me ask a
        serious question:  what do you really believe Kerry has to offer?
        I'm interested in any answer other than !GWB
        \_ For me personally, the most important issues are addressed
           in this document:
           http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/technology/plan.html
           In particular, the current visa system for foreign scientists
           is in a *crisis* state, and seriously threatens America's
           dominance in the sciences.  I've never heard Bush even mention
           this.  Letting the good guys in is actually more important
           for longterm security than keeping the bad guys out.  Also,
           I think Kerry will be much more agressive about investing in
           new technologies that will lead to cleaner energy and a generally
           higher standard of living around the world.  yes, i do give Bush
           credit for the hydrogen power initiative.  I think it's one of
           the few really great things bush has done, but I think a Kerry
           administration would do a lot more in that direction.
           There are many other reasons I'm voting for Kerry, but i have
           a feeling you would classify most of them as "!GWB" type
           reasons.
           \_ While I disagree re "good guys in is actually more important for
              longterm security than keeping the bad guys out", thanks for the
              reasonable response.  That's also part of his platform that I
              hadn't seen. -op
        \_ For me it's 2 things: 1 is that he seems to consider things
           deeply rather than shoot from the hip- long run this will be
           important for reducing/eliminating acts of terrorism.  The other
           is that he has seen war, and he spoke out against it- ordinarily
           this wouldn't be an issue for me, but in the present climate I'd
           like the guy in charge to have a sense of what's going on in the
           trenches.
           \_ What examples suggest "he seems to consider things deeply"?
              Also, do you take issue with Kerry for voting for the war?  How
              about the "I voted for it before I voted against it" bit?  This
              suggests to me that he's just saying what is politically
              expedient rather than noodling it out and finding the best
              solution for the country. -op
              \_ Now you're just trolling; "he voted for it before he voted
                 against it" was about a bill where he voted for an amendment
                 which would have changed the bill, the amendment failed, and
                 he voted against the unmodified bill.  Nothing about political
                 expediency.
                 \_ I'm not trolling.  I know what he meant.  But when he said
                    that it appeared that he was trying to say he was for it
                    and against it.  Furthermore, the amendment was to remove
                    some of the tax cuts.  Instead of a rider, he could have
                    sponsored a separate bill and while I would disagree with
                    the bill, I wouldn't be criticizing him for political
                    expediency. -op
                    \_ This is how Congress works.  It's built into the system
                       now, and while I tend not to agree with this sort of
                       tactic, a congressperson whose policy was never to try
                       this would be cutting themselves off from a fairly
                       political tactic.
                    \_ And how would that have changed his "no" vote?
        \_ GWB needs to pay for his failures, which are significant.
           (note this answer is different from "he's not Bush")
           \_ Looks the same to me.  -!op
        \_ I dont' know where to start.  Foreign policy: picking fight with
           wrong nation such as China, Iraq, Iran, while completely ignoring
           real threats.  Fiscal policy:  run deficit off the roof while still
           gave tax cut to the wealthy.  Running government in secrecy (energy
           task force, classify numerious documents which suppose to be
           declassified), remove all the check and balances created a legal
           blackhole in Cuba and Iraq... stripping civil liberty (ear dropping
           without any oversight?), and worse, ask subordient to bear the
           consequences for things he has done.
           \_ You know, an excoworker of mine now works for the FBI, and
              he explained much of the reasoning behind the Patriot Act
              to me. It actually makes a lot of sense to me.
           \_ This all looks like !GWB.  How is Kerry any different?  BTW, who
              do you consider to be the right nation to pick a fight with?
              What are the real threats you mention and how do you figure we
              should go about dealing with them?  Cuba?  WTF are you talking
              about re: Cuba???
                       \_ His current statement is that he voted no because the
                          amendment failed.  If really supported the ongoing
                          effort in Iraq, he could have voted yes on the
                          $80B funding, and then if the tax rollback failed he
                          could hammer the president for not being fiscally
                          responsible.  -op
        \_ (!GWB answer deleted)
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www.johnkerry.com/issues/technology/plan.html
Science and Technology A Plan To Create Millions Of High-Wage Jobs In The Industries Of The Future Strengthening America's Leadership in Science, Technology, and Innovation John Kerry and John Edwards have a plan to ignite the growth of America's high-tech economy that will help create millions of high-tech, high-wage jobs in the industries of the future such as the broadband Internet, clean energy, nanotechnology, biotechnology, and advanced manufacturing. John Kerry and John Edwards are also committed to increasing investments in areas such as K-12 math and science education and long-term, high-risk research that will help ensure America's scientific, economic and technological leadership in the 21st century. George Bush has failed to lead on science, technology, and innovation. He has politicized or ignored scientific and technical advice. His budget plan cuts almost every area of research that is critical to our future economic growth, and during his tenure, America's position as a leader in broadband Internet technology has eroded from 4th in the world to 10th in the world. The Kerry-Edwards plan will be paid for by accelerating the transition to digital television while ensuring that Americans continue to enjoy free, over-the-air television. This will provide wireless broadband for first responders, expand the spectrum that is available for unlicensed wireless broadband and also free up at least $30 billion of spectrum for public auction - paying for his investments in innovation. Some highlights of the Kerry-Edwards plan include: Create a Business Environment That Will Enhance America's Competitiveness * Eliminate capital gains for long-term investments in small businesses * Extend the Research & Experimentation tax credit Create High-Tech, High-Wage Jobs with a National Strategy for Universal Broadband * Provide a tax credit to ensure that broadband access is universal and affordable * Provide broadband to all first responders by the end of 2006 * Expand spectrum that is available for wireless broadband Invest in Research for the Industries of the Future * Provide substantial research increases for clean energy, medicine, advanced manufacturing, information technology, nanotechnology, and other priorities. Build a High-Tech Workforce * Expand America's science, engineering, and technical workforce. Build an Information Society * Use technology to transform everything from medicine to government. Principles of the Kerry-Edwards Plan * The ability to innovate - to create new products, services and even entirely new industries - is a unique strength of the American people and the American economy. The United States has an entrepreneurial culture, world-class research universities, the highest concentration of "angel" and venture capital, and an openness to new ideas and hard-working immigrants from all over the world. The United States cannot take this leadership for granted, and must be prepared to make the same types of investments in science and education that we made in the wake of Sputnik to maintain this edge. The government's important responsibility is to create an environment that will foster private sector investment and vigorous competition, and to support the building blocks of a dynamic and innovative economy - such as research and development and a workforce that is second to none. Information and communications technologies increase the productivity of businesses that use them creatively, and can transform the way teachers teach and students learn. Clean sources of energy will reduce our dependence on Middle East oil, and preserve the environment for our children. Life sciences technology will help prevent disease, cure serious illnesses, and improve our quality of life. New technologies are absolutely essential for maintaining America's military might, and protecting our people from terrorist attacks. What Innovation Can Accomplish New technologies will not only create the jobs of the future, but also help meet important national goals and improve our quality of life. Examples include: * A universally available broadband network that is 10 to 100 times faster than today's network, reaches rural and inner-city communities, and that enables a new generation of applications in e-learning and e-health. The Kerry-Edwards Plan Create a Business Environment That Will Enhance America's Competitiveness John Kerry and John Edwards are committed to creating a business environment that will promote private sector investment, innovation, competition, and the formation of new businesses. This will require a responsible fiscal policy, targeted tax cuts that reward long-term investments, and trade and regulatory policies that will enhance America's high-tech competitiveness. They will: Eliminate capital gains taxes for long-term investments in small businesses. Small, entrepreneurial firms play a critical role in creating new jobs and commercializing new technologies. As new companies, they are less wedded to incremental improvements to existing products and services, but often have difficulty attracting capital because of the high degree of risk involved. John Kerry will exempt investments held for five or more years in small businesses - a proposal that would cost $6 billion over ten years. 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John Kerry is committed to expanding trade and opening markets for US goods and services abroad. He will vigorously crack down on unfair trade practices, such as piracy of our intellectual property and China's discriminatory policies towards semiconductors and other technological products. In addition, he will work to ensure that China honors its World Trade Organization (WTO) accession agreement to stop forced technology transfers as a prerequisite for doing business in China. End special tax breaks for moving jobs overseas - and cut corporate taxes in the United States. John Kerry recognizes that we cannot keep all jobs in America, but he believes that we need to end special tax breaks for companies shipping jobs overseas. The savings can be used to lower corporate taxes by 5 percent - providing a tax break for 99 percent of taxpaying corporations. This is part of the broader Kerry-Edwards plan to improve the competitiveness of the American economy, making it a more attractive place to create high-quality jobs. Cut the budget deficit in half while investing in priorities. John Kerry has a plan to cut the deficit in half while paying for all his priorities. The Kerry-Edwards plan does this by paying for all proposals, keeping discretionary spending other than education and security growing less than inflation, and cutting corporate welfare. In contrast, George Bush has passed trillions of dollars of tax cuts - squeezing out investment in critical areas such as science and technology. This not only passes the burden of debt onto our children, but also shortchanges the vital investments that are needed to enrich future generations. Create High-Tech, High-Wage Jobs with a National Strategy for Universal Broadband During the Bush administration, the United States has fallen from 4th to 10th in terms of adoption of broadband. 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