8/6     Ilyas, I see you're posting today.  Are you also enforcing your
        arbitrary "thread deletion order" rule you imposed on the rest of
        us on Wednesday?  If this gets deleted, should I purge the rest of
        the motd?  -meyers
        \_ Out of curiousity, when does your script say I posted last?
           I bet it's wrong.  -- ilyas
           \_ The meyers is never wrong!  He may cry like a litle girl at the
              slightest provocation, but do not dis the meyers!      -mice
              \_ Ahem.  I did not use a script to guess your last post, but
                 saw you were part of an active discussion.  My questions
                 are still unanswered, ilyas.  -meyers
                 \_ Which discussion is that?  I see no posts of mine on the
                    motd now except replies to you.  As for your questions:
                    If I see threads I care about deleted out of order, I will
                    delete all threads up to most recent deleted.  This is not
                    something I did on Wednesday as an experiment, I will
                    continue to do it (if I am around), unless someone gives me
                    a better way to fight thread modifying assholes.  I only
                    do it if I have absolute proof the thread was modified
                    maliciously (i.e. if I saw it make it to /etc/motd, and
                    then changed later).  I do not use any scripts.  What _you_
                    do on the motd is none of my business, however please try
                    to be a good motd citizen. -- ilyas
                    \_ Since this "only delete the oldest thread" is a rule
                       from you and only enforced by you, how does this make
                       you less of a prick for deleting everyone else's stuff
                       than the person who deleted a thread you were
                       interested in?  I didn't accuse you of using a script
                       to do it.  You had some entries in a tax discussion
                       which has already been purged.  -meyers
                       \_ You are free to think I am a prick.  I just don't
                          want people deleting stuff they don't like, that
                          other people enjoy.  I can find no other feasible way
                          of discouraging this.  If you have one, let me know.
                          Namecalling will get you nowhere, I am afraid.
                            -- ilyas
                          \_ So to discourage random thread deletion, you
                             delete threads at random!  Way to go!  -meyers
                             \_ Not at random.  But whatever.  I am not sure
                                what you were trying to accomplish starting
                                this thread.  It's clear you aren't interested
                                in a debate in good faith.
                                  -- ilyas
                                \_ Random as in your own arbirary selection
                                   based on some odd defintion of "freshness".
                                   According do you, an active thread on the
                                   bottom of the motd is more stale than
                                   one above with no responses.  -meyers
                                   \_ You are right, it's not perfect.  What
                                      do you suggest?  Incidentally, I only
                                      delete when an 'active' thread gets
                                      deleted.  I don't recall every nuking
                                      anything after a thread with no
                                      responses in the middle of the motd
                                      was removed.  Yes, it's a fuzzy line,
                                      what did you expect? -- ilyas
                                      \_ You can't restore the thread?  How
                                         many csua types run motd archivers?
                                         You could restore your thread from
                                         any of them.  Why delete threads
                                         interesting to other people?  Does
                                         it make you feel better?  -meyers
                                         \_ It doesn't.  I don't feel bad.  In
                                            fact, I am not really emotionally
                                            invested in the motd very much.
                                            However, restoring the thread
                                            does not give impetus to the
                                            thread deleting fuckers to stop
                                            doing it.  You seem to assume
                                            people who delete threads do it
                                            out of goodwill, whereas in my
                                            experience most people who nuke
                                            stuff in the middle do it out of
                                            malice, or because they feel the
                                            topic doesn't belong on the motd,
                                            etc.  I am trying to create
                                            conditions where motd becomes,
                                            roughly, a FIFO data structure.
                                            It seems to be a reasonable
                                            compromise. -- ilyas
                                            \_ So, since you get censored, it's
                                               only fair for you to be able to
                                               drag in other people's threads
                                               and censor them?  How does this
                                               make sense again?  -meyers
                                               \_ Your argument is going
                                                  around in circles.  I stated
                                                  already my reasons.  If you
                                                  have a better course of
                                                  action, other than 'do
                                                  nothing', let me know.  At
                                                  least now if people fuck with
                                                  threads, they know motd will
                                                  likely not remain fun for
                                                  very long.  -- ilyas
                                                  \_ I'm just looking for a
                                                     little consistency in
                                                     your position here.  Why
                                                     not just nuke the whole
                                                     motd instead of imposing
                                                     your arbitrary deletion
                                                     ordering rule?  -meyers
                                                     \_ You are right, I could
                                                        nuke the whole motd,
                                                        too.  Would you rather
                                                        I did that? -- ilyas
                                                        \_ Stop it, both of
                                                           you!  Can't you
                                                           see you're
                                                           tearing this
                                                           family APART?!
                                                           -geordan
                                                        \_ There's strong motd
                                                           tradition of just
                                                           nuking the whole
                                                           thing. -meyers
                                                           \_ Thanks for your
                                                              feedback.  It
                                                              seems I have
                                                              misjudged you.
                                                              Heh.  -- ilyas
        \_ Did either of you delete the tax thread?  Fuck you if you did.
           \_ I haven't ever deleted a thread on the motd.  -meyers