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| 2004/8/3 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Domestic/RepublicanMedia] UID:32651 Activity:high 76%like:32656 |
8/3 Orange alert info pre-dates 9/11
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/03/politics/03intel.html
http://news.yahoo.com/fc?tmpl=fc&cid=34&in=US&cat=Terrorism
officials "reported that they had not yet found concrete evidence that
a terror plot or preparatory surveillance operations were still under
way."
\_ Okay. What should we conclude from that?
\_ That the orange alert is politically timed?
\_ That the timing is, again, dubious. Old information trotted
out after a major event for the other side.
\_ It's not old information. The files were updated *this* year.
Furthermore, 9/11 was planned for years. So it's NEW
information to us, and the fact that some was originally
planned years ago doesn't simply mean that it might be
outdated, but that it might be close to fruition.
\_ Be nice to the op. I don't think he's very good at
reading comprehension.
\_ No such thing as facts, only an interpretation of the
facts, huh? Its pretty funny to watch the freepers try
to defend the credibility of Tom Ridge as it approaches
singularity.
\_ What are you talking about? The NYT article
makes it pretty clear what was going on. Just
because the info is a few years old, doesn't
mean it's out-of-date.
\_ No, but it's not news. The announcement is for
areas that are already in an elevated state of
alert. This was yet another "we're still doing
stuff" announcement. Also, by virtue of predating
9/11, any surveillence from then would be more
or less useless because we've changed and improved
the security measures... right?
\_ Hilarious. Every major news outlet is carrying this story in one
form or another...except for Fox News. Their headline is "lady
liberty reopens to public." The story doesn't seem to appear
anywhere on their site.
\_ So there really *is* a news bias?
\_ Informed. Powerful. Huge Penis.
\_ could someone please explain the HUGE, TAX FREE PENIS thing?
what is that a reference to?
\_ In re: Ann Coulter it's a reference to the fact that some
motder(s?) like her and the only plausible reason for
liking a woman who admires Joe McCarthy is that they want
to have sex with a reasonably hot arch-conservative, so
the retort is "Oh! Your penis is so BIG and TAX FREE!".
\_ So you're saying this originated on the motd?
\_ Nice straw man. |
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| www.nytimes.com/2004/08/03/politics/03intel.html By DOUGLAS JEHL AND DAVID JOHNSTON (NYT) 1473 words Late Edition - Final , Section A , Page 1 , Column 1 ABSTRACT - Much of information that prompted heightened terror alert at several large financial institutions in New York City and Washington is three or four years old, with no evidence that terrorist plot or preparatory surveillance operations are still under way; intelligence officials regard information as significant and troubling because reconnaissance already conducted has provided Al Qaeda with knowledge necessary to carry out attacks, and because Al Qaeda has often struck years after its operatives began surveillance of intended target; Frances Fragos Townsend, White House homeland security adviser, says information apparently gathered by Qaeda operatives in 2000 and 2001 may have been updated as recently as Jan; officials say they are still analyzing computer records, photos, drawings and other documents seized last month in Pakistan, which show that Qaeda operatives conducted extensive reconnaissance; officials say new trove of material, combined with more recent flows of intelligence, demonstrate that Al Qaeda remains active and intent on attacking United States Please Note: Archive articles do not include photos, charts or graphics. To read the complete article, simply click on one of the BUY NOW buttons below. You can buy this single article or, for even greater value, you can purchase this article as part of a multi-pack. You'll then have the opportunity to buy additional articles now or in the future at significant savings! Article Archive: 1996-Present multi-packs are not valid for use with Article Archive: 1851-1995 multi-packs and vice versa. How multi-packs work: A multi-pack is an archive package that saves you money by allowing you to pre-purchase a set number of articles in bulk at a reduced price. You can then debit from your multi-pack and quickly access articles from the archive at your convenience over the lifetime of the multi-pack. Please Note: Article Archive 1996-Present multi-packs are not valid for use with Article Archive: 1851-1995 multi-packs and vice versa. Once you purchase an article, you may view it as often as you like over the next 90 days. |
| news.yahoo.com/fc?tmpl=fc&cid=34&in=US&cat=Terrorism Ridge Defends 'Three-Year-Old' Terror Alert (Reuters) - The decision to warn key US financial centers they may be attacked by al Qaeda was based largely on three-year old information, Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge said on Tuesday, but he insisted the threat was still real. Ridge's appearance in New York at the Citigroup building named on Sunday as a potential al Qaeda target came as US terrorism intelligence has come under fire again, this time for forcing police in New York, Washington and New Jersey to massively increase security based on old information. Red Cross: Preparedness Recommendations - guide to preparedness activities for the five levels of the Homeland Security Advisory System. DOJ: Response to Terrorist Attacks - news releases, initiative details, and more from Attorney General Ashcroft and the Justice Department. White House: National Security - includes text and audio of speeches and statements by the President and cabinet officials. Terrorism Indictments and Complaints - full text of indictments and criminal complaints, with links to corresponding law allegedly broken by defendants. Terrorism Law and Policy - includes news, policy papers, anti-terrorism laws, academic commentary, and more. From JURIST, at the University of Pittsburgh School of Law. Amnesty International: 11 September Crisis - looks at human rights issues raised in the aftermath of the September 11 attacks. |