Berkeley CSUA MOTD:Entry 32459
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2004/7/24-26 [Health/Eyes] UID:32459 Activity:very high
7/24    How do you buy contact lenses online without dealing with an
        optomotrist?  It seems that the sites that used to let you fake your
        doctor info have "cracked down" on people exercising their right
        to freely purchase products.
        \_ My god! Are you people that cheap? Just go to an eye doctor
           and get an examination. It's probably a better idea than
           self-prescribing your own contacts. Many health plans will
           cover it too.
           \_ spoken like someone who's mommy and daddy are paying for
              (paid for) his college education.
           \_ of course not.  i have no objection to paying for services,
              i just object to being *forced* by the government to pay
              for those services.  should i be forced at gunpoint to go
              to a podiatrist before I buy shoes?  or a dentist before
              i buy a toothbrush?  where does it end?  I know exactly
              what my prescription is, and know exactly which brand i've had
              great luck with for the last ten years of wearing contacts.
              every time a law is written to force people to pay money for
              services they don't want or need to protect some special interest
              we take one step closer to tyrany.
              \- the problem are the industries which self-regulate [sic].
                 see e.g. nolo v. texas --psb
                 \_ self regulate? you understand that there's a federal law
                    \-well naturally part of self-regulation has to do with
                      limiting competition by legal barriers. --psb
                    preventing free(as in freedom) purchase of contacts, right?
                    i can actually go to jail for trying to buy little pieces
                    of plastic to help me see better. oh, and you know what
                    else?  i can go to jail for buying my cotacts from a
                    canadian store, thanks to the policy passed by mr.
                    "free trade" bush. so here's a big "fuck you" to all you
                     libertarians who vote for bush as a "lesser evil."
                      \_ No libertarian would vote for bush.  It is funny to
                         contrast the apologist way the Greens talk about nader
                         vs the almost weekly mails i get from the libs saying
                         "hey, some article says we are taking votes away from
                          bush, isn't that great!" -phuqm
                          \_ Tell ilya that.
                             \_ Didn't I tell you already I am voting Nader?
                                  -- ilyas
                                \_ Are you serious?
                                   \_ Yes, I am splitting the liberal vote
                                      in a non-battleground state. -- ilyas
                                \_ In other news, Satan seen making snowmen!
                          \_ Wouldn't libertarians vote for the libertarian
                             candidate and greens for the green one, etc?
        \_ I bought mine from http://www.lensmart.com
           \_ did they contact your optomotrist or was the transaction free
              as in freedom?
              \_ I bought them last year.  I wasn't aware there's a new
                 federal law.
                 \_ Februrary 2004.  welcome to the fourth Reich.
        \_ Just go get lasik and stop whining about your freedom of whatever.
           You'd be the first asshole to sue the online place for destroying
           your eyes if you misprescribed yourself.
           \_ why don't you go move to some totalitarian state where people
              have learned not to whine when their goverment masters control
              the petty details of their lives.  i'm sure you'll be happier
              there.  I know I'll be happier when you are gone. -phuqm.
              \_ if this is the biggest concern you have about what your
                 government is doing to you then you live in a utopia.  there
                 are billions of people around the rest of the world who wish
                 they could live in a place where their biggest gripe is the
                 government insisted they see an eye doctor as part of their
                 contact renewal.  you, sir, are a big cry baby and have no
                 clue what a totalitarian state looks like.  contact lenses?
                 get real.  the only thing you missed was calling everyone
                 a nazi.  you're a deluded selfish little bratty baby. contact
                 lenses... totalitarian state... i'm too stunned to go on.
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