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| 2004/7/20-21 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Domestic/President/Clinton] UID:32393 Activity:very high |
7/20 Berger investigated for taking classified reports
http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20040719-112728-6891r.htm
"...he had taken from classified anti-terror documents he
reviewed at the National Archives by sticking them
in his jacket and pants."
This guy was Clinton's and Kerry's NSA (equivalent to Rice)
\_ Again, even though you erased it, what's really interesting about
all of this is why this is suddenly "news" when the investigation
has been going on since last December.
\_ how is the timing relevant in any way? This guy stole and
lost documents from the National Archives and you are
worried about the timing. Congress had known about Abu
Ghraib for half a year before it came out, and???
\_ And you screamed bloody murder about it all being leaked
out in time to be an election-year issue. If that was
politicking, then so the hell is this.
\_ I don't know who 'you' refers to. I though the whole
thing was overblown, nothing more than hazing of
terrorists. Again, when is a good time to release
a former NSA stole and lost documents while the
9/11 commission was ongoing? I don't think you have
an answer. I can't believe you have the
audacity to worry about the 'timing'.
\_ Pshaw all around. The NSA scandal and the Abu Graib
scandal should have been revealed at the same time:
as soon as they were discovered. How do you like my
answer now?
\_ Abu Graib was revealed when it was discovered. I
remember seeing it mentioned months before the
pictures came out. It was only the pictures that
suddenly put it on the front page.
\_ You simply reinforce my opinion that to you
what matters is style over substance. You could
care less that someone violated the law and
effectively interfered with a Congressional
investigation. In summary, you are unethical and
choose to do defend like individuals.
\_ Is that the impression you got? Let me disabuse
you of it: If he violated the law and interefered
with said investigation beyond a reasonable doubt,
I not only care, I will be happy to see him
punished. Now pay attention here, because this is
where it gets tricky: at the same time that I
agree he should be punished, I _also_ understand
that the timing of this release of information is
of particular use to the Repubs in their efforts
to discredit the Kerry campaign. See that? Two
beliefs, one pro-punishment and the other
rather cynical, held at exactly the same time in
my brain. You should try it some time. It's a
kick. |
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| www.washingtontimes.com/national/20040719-112728-6891r.htm ASSOCIATED PRESS President Clinton's national security adviser, Samuel R Berger, is the focus of a criminal investigation after removing highly classified documents and handwritten notes from a secure reading room while preparing for the September 11 commission hearings. Mr Berger's home and office were searched earlier this year by FBI agents authorized with warrants. Some drafts of a sensitive after-action report on the Clinton administration's handling of al Qaeda terror threats during the December 1999 millennium celebration are still missing. Mr Berger and his attorney told the Associated Press last night that he knowingly removed handwritten notes that he had taken from classified anti-terror documents he reviewed at the National Archives by sticking them in his jacket and pants. He inadvertently took copies of actual classified documents in a leather portfolio and also accidentally threw away some documents, they said. "I deeply regret the sloppiness involved, but I had no intention of withholding documents from the commission, and to the contrary, to my knowledge, every document requested by the commission from the Clinton administration was produced," Mr Berger said. Mr Berger served as Mr Clinton's national security adviser for the president's second term and has been informally advising Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Mr Clinton asked Mr Berger last year to review and select the administration documents that would be turned over to the commission. The FBI searched Mr Berger's home and office with warrants earlier this year after employees of the National Archives told agents that they thought they had witnessed Mr Berger putting documents into his clothing while reviewing sensitive Clinton administration papers, officials said. When asked, Mr Berger said he returned some of the classified documents, which he found in his office, and all of the handwritten notes he had taken from the secure room, but said he could not locate two or three copies of the highly classified millennium terror report. "In the course of reviewing over several days thousands of pages of documents on behalf of the Clinton administration in connection with requests by the Sept. "When I was informed by the Archives that there were documents missing, I immediately returned everything I had except for a few documents that I apparently had accidentally discarded," he said. Lanny Breuer, one of Mr Berger's attorneys, said his client has offered to cooperate fully with the investigation but has not been interviewed by the FBI or prosecutors. Mr Breuer said his client thought he was looking at copies of the classified documents, not originals. Mr Berger was allowed to take handwritten notes but also knew that taking his own notes out of the secure room was a "technical violation of Archive procedures, but it is not all clear to us this represents a violation of the law," Mr Breuer said. The officials said the missing documents were highly classified and included critical assessments about the Clinton administration's handling of the millennium terror threats as well as identification of America's terror vulnerabilities at airports and seaports. Mr Breuer said the Archives staff first expressed concern to Mr Berger during an Oct. Mr Berger was given a second copy that day, Mr Breuer said. |