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7/19 Anti-protest protesters? Is this a form of censorship?
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040719/D83TT7UO0.html
\_ Are you really that stupid?
\_ What? --op
\_ What he's saying is, "How could that possibly be a form
of CENSORSHIP? You can't really be that dumb, you must
be joking." He gave you a way out op, and you fell right
on your face.
\_ A way out of what? --op
\_ There is a long tradition of right wingers getting together
and attacking and otherwise terrorizing anyone who disagrees
with them. See the history of the American Legion, VFW, hardhats
beating up hippies, The Klan, etc. This is just a pathetic
attempt at more of the same, but since it will fail, it doesn't
qualify as "censorship." A more accurate term would be harassment.
\_ Name some more random groups. The foreign legion is a branch
of the French military. Do you mean the American Legion? And
regarding the whole "right wingers crushing dissent" thing,
try walking into a given grouping of Cal students and saying
"I kind of like Bush" just for fun. -John
\_ Yeah, American legion, thanks corrected. Do you honestly
think you would be beaten for saying that? I really doubt
it.
\_ The Klan is right wing? The one and only member of the Senate
who was in the Klan is a Dem.
\_ You know, you're right--I belonged to some pseudo-young
republican "debate" organization in high school, before I
I realized that they were a bunch of "me too" morons. It took
at least a year of Cal to realize that the people they had this
terrible enmity towards were equally idiotic. So in the long
run, one can hope it balances out... -John
\_ The Foreign Legion? The FRENCH Foreign Legion? What's the VFW
and Hard Hats? I need more than that for a google search. The
Klan isn't a right wing group. It's a hate group no different
from other racist hate groups of any color.
\_ Try "Know Nothings."
\_ VFW == Veterans of Foreign Wars. I meant the American Legion.
Corrected. If you don't know about the history of Vietnam
War protests, do a search.
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| apnews.myway.com/article/20040719/D83TT7UO0.html Full Image NEW YORK (AP) - Activists planning to demonstrate against the upcoming GOP convention should be on the lookout for young conservatives gearing up to protest the protesters. "To show that there is a group of people out there, there are Republicans that will protest them right back," said Tom Paladino, who leads the New York chapter of the newly formed Protest Warriors. "We are the right-wing freedom fighters - we are out there and are just as animated as the protesters can be," said member Jason Sager, of Brooklyn. Protest Warriors, which claims about 3,000 members nationwide, expects about 200 in New York for the four-day convention, which begins Aug. Leaders say they know they won't have equal representation, but hope the contrast helps them stand out. They will be armed with their own picket signs and T-shirts, even video cameras to capture their mission. They're all going to be trying to outdo each other," said Kfir Alfia, of Austin, Texas, who formed the group last year with Alan Lipton after they crashed anti-war demonstrations in San Francisco, carrying signs that said: "Except for Ending Slavery, Fascism, Nazism and Communism, War Has Never Solved Anything." They said they were surprised to encounter animosity at a peace rally, and decided to publicize their experience. They posted videos of their counterprotests on the Internet and began coordinating more actions. The movement attracted young conservatives from across the country, as well as stalwarts like Rush Limbaugh, who has hailed them. This spring, the group protested anti-war rallies in several cities, including New York. For now, Protest Warriors' convention plans are unclear because they depend on the anti-Bush groups. Some of those groups are still awaiting police permits for their demonstrations. |
| chnm.gmu.edu/hardhats/homepage.html On May 8, 1970, the Dow Jones Industrial Average dropped five points to finish at 717, in the slowest day of trading in months. In the streets outside the New York Stock Exchange, however, chaos erupted: at noon, hundreds of construction workers arrived on Wall Street and violently disrupted a protest against the Vietnam war. Next the workers marched to city hall, where their rampage continued throughout the lunch hour. "While I was on the ground I rolled myself into a ball just as four or five pairs of construction boots started kicking me." May, 1970 was one of the most turbulent months of the "sixties" era. How did the hard hat riots fit into a larger scene that included expansion of the Vietnam war, campus unrest, school busing, and segregation in the building trades union? For that matter, how did the events of May 8 relate to what followed, including Archie Bunker, Ronald Reagan and the idea that the late sixties were dominated by "longhaired" protesters? Search for clues in this site -- and find out what brought those boots and that long hair to Wall Street on "bloody Friday." |