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2004/7/14-15 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic/Gay] UID:32274 Activity:high Edit_by:auto
7/14    How do i find out how each senator voted on a given bill?
        In particular, I'm trying to find out how each senator voted on
        the gay marriage ban today, and I can't find the actual vote in
        the senate records.
        \_ http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=108&session=2&vote=00155
          \_ you rock. thanks.
        \_ DUDE U R TEH GAY
        \_ Post it if you find it.
        \_ do you want to OUT them?
        \_ http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/legislative/a_three_sections_with_teasers/votes.htm
           (just google for: how senators voted)
        \_ You can figure it out from this article. They list the
           party members who crossed lines:
           http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A49537-2004Jul14.html
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US Senate Roll Call Votes 108^th Congress - 2^nd Session as compiled through Senate LIS by the Senate Bill Clerk under the direction of the Secretary of the Senate Vote Summary Question: On the Cloture Motion (Motion to Invoke Cloture on the Motion to Proceed to Consider S J Res.
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more Senate Roll Call Votes These reports provide Senate "Roll Call Vote" results for the current and several prior Congresses including votes taken today. Roll call vote results are compiled through the Senate Legislative Information System by the Senate Bill Clerk under the direction of the Secretary of the Senate. Roll Call Tables The following tables list the recorded votes from the current Congress and several prior Congresses. Clicking on a vote number provides a tally of the yeas and nays for that vote.
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www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A49537-2004Jul14.html
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