12/1 Join the protest against UCB offering scholarship to Chinese
dissident Wei
- why would you be against? you some kind of commie?
\_ I have never figured out why U.S. schools give free
education and so much money to foreign students.
This kind of activity should be banned by law.
\_ Uh, this isn't any random student. It's a politcal
gesture. It has zero effect on your financial aid or
ability to get an education.
\_ I totally agree. The US policy is causing too
much of a brain drain and money drain for other
countries. Educating their youth for free for
12 years, only to have them go to a US university,
to drain another $100000 from their country for
school fees and living expenses, and then have
the now productive person work in the US and pay
US taxes to pay for the education of US kids.
What a deal!
\_ How many get a spot that a real American (read:
read human being) would have had otherwise?
\_ I don't know about that, but the last time I
checked, the software industry where there is
a huge concentration of foreign born engineers
is short of 200000 engineers, and the
unemployment rate is at an all time low.
I don't know about UC Berkeley but at a lot
of less prominent universities, the professors
just can't find enough US graduate students
willing to spend 5 years of hardship and low
pay to do research work.
\_ How idiotic: U.S. universities would be a
bunch of third-rate diploma mills were it not
for European Jewish intellectuals (ie.,
Einstein, for starters) fleeing the Nazis for
the U.S. Would you deny Enstein a fellowship?
\_ I suspect very few graduate students are
fleeing political persecution. What
happened 50 years ago is irrelevant (kinda
like your argument). Its foreign countries
that need the U.S.
The amount of academic support given to foreign
students is disgusting. Hmmm, lets educate
our competition so they can undermine
U.S. based industries. Lets educate
foreign students for free when so many
bright kids in America are deprived of a
passable education. Think about it a little
bit.
\_ Foreign born engineers and scientists is
one of the major strengths of US-based
industries.
As for US education, I thought it has improved
a great deal already. In any case, it
already has one of the highest cost per
student. Throwing more money at it is
probably not going to solve any ills that it
has. Granted, some of the inner city schools
may have financial problems, but that is more
a problem of distribution.
\_ Wei is one of the few interesting thinkers to have come
out of China since the Cultural Revolution. That is,
universities are vying for him because of his notable
and influential scholarship. And I'm all for U.S. schools
recruiting smart people, foreign or not.
\_ Intellectuals and scholars OUT of UC Berkeley! Down
with the ivory towers! Sack all departments except for the
athletic department! What do you think this is, a place
of learning ?
\_ This isn't about scholastic achievement or intellectualism.
This is about some foreigner taking a spot a real American
would have had. Not just in the classroom but housing,
jobs, and other resources. What does this clown offer us
in return?
\_ How about scoring brownie points with the wealthy
Asian donors that Chancellor Tien got to donate
millions upon millions of dollars to the University,
so that they want to donate even more?
\_ You mean to build themselves an ugly building on
campus to further their politcal agenda?
\_ This guy will write a book and will earn his US
publisher a few hundred thousand dollars in Taiwan
alone (if all you care is people taking your money).
\_ I'm glad his publishers will make money. I'm sure
every crap book that Oprah features on her show makes
money. That doesn't mean the author belongs at
Berkeley or any other decent school.
I don't know if this guy will succumb to the
disgraceful infighting of the Chinese exiles, but
he did spend 14 years in prison unlike the Tiananmen
square student leaders, so you have to give him the
benefit of the doubt.
Remember that the money for him is going to come
some Chinese/Far Eastern studies department/institute.
And his personal experience with the Chinese prison
system alone would probably bring more for the
department/institute than your typical graduate
student. Now you may want to argue that Chinese/Far
Eastern studies are useless, but that's another
argument.
\_ It's just a forum for further propaganda.
\_ He won't be coming to UCB; he accepted a fellowship offered
by Columbia University - android
\_ Good. Suckers. |
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