10/30   The net sux after switching to sprint.  Are there a lot of hosts on
        sprint?
        \_ One of the MIT guys in our netrek game last night told me that
              most of his lag to Berkeley occurred at sprintnet in New York,
              and that bbnplanet from MIT to NYC, and the net from NYC to here
            wasn't bad.   However, when I did a traceroute, most of the lag
           I got to him was at MCI in Boston.  Any ideas?   -John
         \_ routing packets to us was/is a bit screwy as the routing
          change propogates to the rest of the world, it'll
          settle down soon  (and yes, the worst part of any
          net connection will be sprintlink, because IT SUCKS!)
        \_ Does Cal have a single T3 going to the outside world?
         \_ UCB, UCD, UCSF, UCOP, & UCSC all share one DS3 (or
            will very shortly once the transition is finished) to
            Sprint's Stockton HUB - see http://ucb.net.announce and
            http://ucb.net.discussion for more info
        \_ gazillions - what does that have to do with anything?
           \_ dumbass, this is the problem.  I'm on BBNnet as do alot of
              people in the bay area.  If the BBNET-SPRINT connect is
              bad, it might be better to just stick to bbn.
         \_ The switch wasn't made to improve connectivity.
            the switch was made because Sprintlink is MUCH MUCH
            cheaper.  Sprint is known to suck, but there's nothing
            that we can do about it - BBNPlanet got rid of the
            hugely discounted rates UCB was paying BARRnet.
            (And yes, Sprint does have many more customers nationwide
             than BARRnet ever did.)
        \_ I thought we weren't switching til next week?
         \_ The switch was announced as taking place Mon->Wed of
          THIS week.
          \_ Ahh..did they finished at around 3:00am?
             i remember something being said about
             that time..well..that woudl explain my 85%
             packet loss at around that time :)
              \_SPRINT SUCKS MAJOR DICK.. Traceroute reports >400ms hops
          between Sprint and http://alter.net and then onto my ISDN ISP.