8/7     What's a better gift for the first date, single long stem rose
        or cute little teddy bear?
        \_ SAP ALERT
        \_ A chainsaw!  Either red, or yellow, your choice.
        \_ This had better be a good first date.  Please don't write on
           the motd next -- "She stood me up.  What should I do?"
        \_ if she's under 18, definitely teddy bear. If over 23, definitely
           rose. Somewhere between is hard to choose.
        \_ Would a bouquet overdo it?
        \_ MAKE SURE IT'S A YELLOW ROSE ON THE FIRST DATE
           (don't ask me why, I've just been told that yellow
           is the right choice) - jed
        \_ Yellow == friendship, Red == love, Purple == ????
                \_ no no don't get a yellow rose - yellow stands for sickness
                as well, and is more accepted as a color for get-well-wishes
                and such. i'd avoid the teddy bear- too cutesy & high school.
                \_ Yellow also means infidelity.
                \_ White means friendship, dumb ass.
        \_ do _not_ buy a yellow rose.  it means loss of love or
                infidelity.  do _not_ buy a white rose.  it means
                friendship, which is not the right sentiment for
                a date.  do _not_ buy a red rose, because it means
                passionate love, which is premature on a first date.
                do _not_ buy a teddy bear, because that's really corny.
                do _not_ go to a formal restaurant for dinner on a first date,
                because that's too tense.  save the gifts and formal
                stuph for later, when real feelings have had time to
                develop.  if you must bring a gift, make sure it's
                small, and refers in a humorous way to how you
                met her or something else unique about her.  -hh
                \_ carpooling...think about it
        \_ a teddy bear for a first date?  I'd say go for the rose, it'll
           make her feel less "under pressure."  And I'd go for the pink
           rose - pink means "attraction" (less direct than the red rose).
        \_ Dewd/dewdette don't worry about it. Just be yourself and enjoy
           the date.
        \_ A Mum means Hope. - http://www.pressenter.com/~rose/meaning.htm
        \_  I think purple roses look the best
        \_ How about a black rose?
                \-giver her a black lotus. if she doesnt play magic and
        realize what you've given her, then dump her. --psb
        \_ Don't give him/her a rose.  It makes you too predictable and
                boring.  You wanna look cool.  Treat him/her to dinner,
                and give a box of gummy worms (teddy bears too, if you
                want to be a sap).
                Don't give gummy salamanders though.  It signifies
                desperate sex.  --pcjr
        \_ I'd prefer a bullwhip.  or a switchblade. I suppose if the date
           consisted of shooting holes in the teddy bear, that too would
           be acceptable. -ray
        \_ I don't give gift on first date; that is so passe. - choice
        \_ Yeah, first date, so passe man. Why don't you skip all that
           and go straight to the hysterical breakup scenes? Get with it. -pvg
        \_ Don't knock Origami flowers.  Always a good choice
        \_ Why? You fucking lose in the end any which way.
        \_ What's a difference between "going out" and a "date"?
        \_ ZERO TOLERANCE!!!!!
        \_ OH MAN, I REALLY AM GOING TO EXERT SOME SELF-CONTROL --chris
           \_ not enough to shut up, apparently.
        \_ Don't you dumbfucks know anything? (except psb who had a good
           idea.)  Bring condoms.  If she doesn't play and realize what
           you've given her, then dump her.  --psb fan