7/23    If you would like to see the CSUA not give away a nice new machine
        that would make a *MUCH* better and *MUCH* more reliable web server
        than the current very broken machine being used for these services,
        mail politburo@csua and say "Don't give the new web server away!"
        \_ I think the csua has plenty of machines, but
           most of them are crap I wouldn't inflict on anyone. -danh
        \_Or, consider actually  finding out what's going on before doing
          something you really don't know much about.
         \_ so post the mail to http://ucb.org.csua or a /usr/local/csua
          file so people CAN find out about it
        \_ Better yet, attend the sunday politburo meeting.
         \_ Maybe it should be announced so people know about it
            (and people are much more likely to show up if you tell
             them what's going to be discussed so they know it's not
             just a "sit around and waste time" meeting)
          \_ but all politburo meetings are a waste of time!
        \_ I've been reading the Motd for years, and in all that time I've
           never read anything that has pissed me off enough to waste
           other peoples time by adding to the Motd.  The proposed alternate
           use of the computer in question is a good one, worthy of CSUA
           support.  If somone feels that CSUA members should not support
           this position there are appropriate forums (as explained above).
           Asking CSUA members to mail politburo in support of a position
           without even attempting to explain it is insulting to us all.
           WE ARE NOT SHEEP! -diran
           \_ baaaaa
        \_ And mail stoptien@asucb.org while you're at it!!!!1!!!!1!!!
           WE SHALL NOT BE OPPRESSED!!1!!!
        \_ I find it really weird that the CSUA wouldn't want to have such
           a nice solid machine for their own use.  I can throw in an extra
           6 gigs of disk and have the machine at the CSUA anytime you're
           ready for it.  We used to use it as a file server and as a CPU
           server at a different time.  It should easily handle all the
           ftp, DNS, www, and file serving functions of the csua.  Why
           is the csua trying to bite the hands that feed it?  This is the
           third donation from us, if you don't need this machine, then you
           won't need the 4th, 5th, 6th, etc donations either, I'd guess.
           Maybe its just because this is summer, but this isn't the sort
           of reaction I expected.  (I certainly did *not* intend for this
           to turn into a csua flame war, sorry about that.)  -reiffin
         \_ never underestimate the shortsightedness & stupidity
          of the csua