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7/8 Read transcripts of conversations by enron employees gleefully
discussing fucking the state of califorinia and the great prospects
for having a president who's number one contributor is enron:
http://csua.org/u/83k (nytimes.com)
why are you fuckers loyal to these people?
\- see also http://csua.org/u/83p
why are you fuckers loyal to these people?
\_ Let's see, we threw out the Governor that allowed Enron to get
away with it, and now that Bush is in office, Enron is getting
convicted... Wait, who's loyal to who again? I'm lost.
\_ Bush sat on his ass until California was almost bankrupt. If
the right thing is to wait so long until it becomes so blatantly
obvious Enron is breaking the law what would the wrong thing have
been?
\_ the Federal government doesn't do squat for California.
\_ Wilson stuck us with the deregulation system that let Enron
do this, Davis got stuck trying to clean up the mess.
\_ RRRiiiighhhhttt. From the article:
In their August conversation, Matt and Tom discussed their hope
that George W. Bush, then the Texas governor, would win the
2000 presidential race because he opposed price caps. But
unfortunately for Enron, Mr. Bush's picks for the Federal
Energy Regulatory Commission, Patrick Wood III and Nora
Brownell, moved quickly to impose price caps throughout the
Western United States after they took office in summer 2001, a
move that helped break the back of the power crisis.
So.. What do you have against Bush? He apparently agrees
with you.
\_ The FERC repeatedly dragged their feet on price caps,
costing California billions. Cheney said it was all
California's fault, remember?
http://www.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/06/12/congress.energy
\_ I'll repeat myself again in case you're having trouble
remembering: anything a democrat does, evil. Anything
a republican does, good!
\_ So first you say Bush was opposed to price caps, anti-CA and
pro-Enron. That's proven false by reality so then you say
"yes he acted but he waited too long". There's just no
pleasing some people. When people will bitch and moan and
cry no matter what you do for them and hate you for it, you
have no incentive to help them in the future. You're lucky
they bothered to do anything at all. You'd be just as bitter
and hateful if that were the case.
\_ I think he's just jealous because Bush did the right
thing despite a heafy campaign contribution from
Enron, where as Davis took bribes like crazy.
\_ Bush did the right thing? Did you miss the part where
his FERC royally screwed us? I'm calling you out as
a California fifth columnist.
\_ "Proven false by reality"??? Where you even here during
that time? Bush and Cheney both opposed price caps.
The FERC imposed them over their objections after
spending a long time studying the issue. Cheney met
with Enron to help develop their nationwide and
California energy policy and still suing to keep
the transcripts of those meeting secret.
\_ hahaha, stupid californians getting screwed by bush, cheney
and enron ... and some are even loving it. I'm sure glad I'm
not a stupid californian. |
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| csua.org/u/83k -> www.nytimes.com/2004/06/13/weekinreview/13word.html?ex=1089432000&en=6a284e79b28317c5&ei=5070 WORD FOR WORD Enron Traders on Grandma Millie and Making Out Like Bandits By RICHARD A OPPEL Jr. Published: June 13, 2004 L AST month, the Snohomish County Public Utility District, outside Seattle, released audiotapes of Enron energy traders discussing "stealing" from California, sticking it to "Grandma Millie" and other ways of manipulating the energy market. The tapes, recorded in 2000, surfaced because Enron, now in bankruptcy court, pressed a claim for $122 million against Snohomish, which the company contends improperly canceled a power contract in 2001. An Enron spokeswoman says that while the conversations are "disturbing and offensive," the contract fee is still valid. Snohomish officials disagree, and its lawyers are using the tapes, originally subpoenaed by the Justice Department, to help them fight Enron's claim. Senator Maria Cantwell, Democrat of Washington, estimates that if the $122 million fee stands, it will cost the average household served by Snohomish $420 in higher bills. Two Enron employees, Greg and Shari, prepare for a phone call that is part of negotiations with Snohomish about the proposed energy contract. Greg: Um, called lies, it's all how well you can weave these lies together, Shari. All right, so um - - Shari: I feel like I'm being corrupted now. In the now infamous Grandma Millie exchange, recorded on Nov. They also refer to the disputed presidential election, which was as yet undecided. Bob: You know - you know - you know, Grandma Millie, she's the one that Al Gore's fightin' for, you know? Later in the same conversation, Kevin and Bob express little sympathy for Californians. Person 2: The magical word of the day is "Burn, Baby, Burn"-- Person 1: What's happening? Person 2: There's a fire under the core line it's been de-rated from 45 to 2,100. Mr Belden and Mr Richter have both pleaded guilty to federal charges stemming from their roles in manipulating the electricity markets. Tim: He steals money from California to the tune of about a million -- Person 2: Will you rephrase that? Many of the traders' conversations are about California's initial efforts to cap the price of power sold in the state, a move they feared would decrease power prices and their own profits. Two traders, Matt and Tom, discussed the subject of caps on Aug. |
| csua.org/u/83p -> www.gourmet-a-la-modem.com/0103039.htm jpg (15047 bytes) Description: A rich double crme cheese made from whole milk enriched with fresh cream. Gratte Paille is hand molded and is produced by our dear friend and master Cheesemakers, Robert Rouzaire, one of the few remaining "affineurs" (a person who ages cheese) of soft-ripened cheese in France. Taste: Very rich, deliciously creamy Texture: Soft, like whipped butter Serving Suggestions: As an appetizer on crusty bread or with crudities. |
| www.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/06/12/congress.energy -> www.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/06/12/congress.energy/ Cheney stands ground in meeting over price caps image From Ted Barrett CNN Washington Bureau WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Vice President Dick Cheney defended the administration's opposition to price controls Tuesday at a Capitol Hill meeting with members of the California congressional delegation. Democrats, who said they told the vice president Californians are victims of price gouging, criticized Cheney after the hour-long meeting, complaining he said nothing that will help Western consumers hard-hit by high energy prices. Anna Eshoo, D-California, told reporters after the meeting. "This meeting is the equivalent to the photo op visit the president made to California." Armey apologizes to Watts for hearing remarks Eshoo said the vice president "didn't give an inch" when pressed to order the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission to regulate wholesale electricity prices in California. Cheney reportedly told the group that government-mandated price controls would artificially reduce the much-needed electricity supply in California. "The vice president kept saying that our plea for cost-based rates in this emergency would produce not one kilowatt," said Democratic Rep. "Well, the governor is doing everything he can do to raise capacity. We have 12 plants on line, and we just met the 10 percent conservation goal. This is an emergency that threatens to bring the California economy and the national economy under. "But the vice president didn't seem to understand a word we said," Filner sighed. Several Republicans in the California delegation, some of whom support the imposition of price controls, described the vice president as "cordial" and "helpful" but made note of the "deep philosophical differences" between many Republicans and Democrats on these issues. The ranking Democrat on the House Energy and Commerce Committee, Henry Waxman, who is leading an effort to move a price caps bill directly to the floor for a vote, contended Cheney was not interested in the views of the Democrats. "It was clear he had his mind made up before he entered the room. Whatever we said wasn't going to change that preconceived view. He started out by saying he wanted to help California but then laid out no proposal to help our state," Waxman said. "What many of us expressed over and over again is that we need federal help right now in order to increase the supply if we put cost reimbursement limits on wholesale prices. "The vice president did not respond favorably about this. The meeting was attended by 41 members of California's delegation, both Democrats and Republicans, including the state's two Democratic senators. Sam Farr, D-California, said there was bipartisan support in the delegation for increasing the federal government's conservation efforts in California and having the administration reconsider its decision Tuesday to deny California a waiver that would have freed the state from requiring clean-burning gasoline in its vehicles. Complaints about the waiver denial were pressed by the Republican chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, Bill Thomas, according to several participants. Congress will hold two key hearings on the energy crisis Wednesday. In the Senate, Democrat Joe Lieberman, who chairs the Governmental Affairs Committee, will begin a series of hearings into the price increases. And on the House side, Energy Secretary Spencer Abraham will testify on President Bush's comprehensive energy proposal before the Energy and Commerce Committee's subcommittee on energy. Cheney did not make himself available for comments after the meeting. |
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