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2004/7/6 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:31180 Activity:moderate
7/6     Bush lied!  (NYT) http://csua.org/u/822
        \_ I think this says that the CIA lied, or at least did not
           do their job properly.
           \_ shit rolls downhill.
              \_ I think Bush is responsible for what most of the Executive
                 Branch does, but the CIA is a peculiar institution.
                 Especially since Tenant was a Clinton appointee, I am
                 willing to give Bush a pass on this one. -Bush basher
                 \_ Bush is toast anyway, so it doesn't matter.  Maybe we
                    should all start speculating on who we want in the
                    kerry cabinet.
                    \_ Madeleine Albright as Sec. of State and Colin Powell
                       as Sec. of Defense.  Possibly John McCain as Energy.
                       Maybe Ralph Nader.  Howard Dean's Net monkeys as the
                       FCC.  Hilary as Attorney General! Ok, I'm getting silly
                       now.
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President Bush, even as he publicly warned of the threat posed by Saddam Hussein's illicit weapons, according to government officials. The existence of a secret prewar CIA operation to debrief relatives of Iraqi scientists and the agency's failure to give their statements to the president and other policymakers has been uncovered by the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence. The panel has been investigating the government's handling of prewar intelligence on Iraq's unconventional weapons and plans to release a wide-ranging report this week on the first phase of its inquiry. The report is expected to contain a scathing indictment of the CIA and its leaders for failing to recognize that the evidence they had collected did not justify their assessment that Mr Hussein had illicit weapons. CIA officials, saying that only a handful of relatives made claims that the weapons programs were dead, play down the significance of the information collected in the secret debriefing operation. That operation is one of a number of significant disclosures by the Senate investigation. The Senate report, intelligence officials say, concludes that the agency and the rest of the intelligence community did a poor job of collecting information about the status of Iraq's weapons programs, and that analysts at the CIA and other intelligence agencies did an even worse job of writing reports that accurately reflected the information they had. The Senate found, for example, that an Iraqi defector who supposedly provided evidence of the existence of a biological weapons program had actually said he did not know of any such program. In another case concerning whether a shipment of aluminum tubes seized on its way to Iraq was evidence that Baghdad was trying to build a nuclear bomb, the Senate panel raised questions about whether the CIA had become an advocate, rather than an objective observer, and selectively sought to prove that the tubes were for a nuclear weapons program. 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