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2004/6/28-30 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:31048 Activity:moderate
6/28    Pop Quiz!  A CBS News poll today (http://csua.org/u/7yz shows the
        following results.  Q - The Bush administration's policies have
        made the U.S.:  Safer from terrorism (53%), Less safe (28%), No
        effect (15%) among registered voters.  A CNN poll from last week
        seemed to show the opposite result.  Why the discrepancy?
        \- did the previous poll ask about "bush co policies" or "invading
           iraq" ... yes, erasing the taliban hurt al quedas training
           infrastructure, but i think bushco also has also given al queda
           their latest recruiptment poster in the hooded fellow --psb
           \_ Correct.  The CNN poll question was:  Do you think the war
              with Iraq has made the US safer -- or less safe -- from
              terrorism?  Safer (37%), Less safe (55%), No change (6%).
              People appreciate that Southwest or United Airlines flights
              aren't blowing up, but they're irritated that there were no WMDs,
              with the prisoner abuse, dead Iraqis and GIs, and with the
              corresponding effect on America's credibility.
              \_ goes to show that the American people are smarter
                 than your average motd troll?
                 \_ All polls are push polls.  Polling shows nothing but it
                    does keep us amused until the real thing.
        \_ Using sub-sampling and not giving the MoE for that subsample,
           or even the sample size?  Also, the Q is quite different.
           the CBS poll asked about "the bush admin's policies."  The
           CNN poll asked about "the war in iraq."
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csua.org/u/7yz -> www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/06/28/opinion/polls/main626478.shtml
Growing public optimism about the nations economy has helped lift support for the President. Kerry is the choice of 45% of registered voters, Bush the choice of 44%. This is a sharp turnaround for the Bush campaign in the span of just one month; in May, Kerry had opened up a wide 8-point lead over Bush. Both have failed so far to convince a majority of voters that they share their priorities, could deal well with a crisis or with the economy -- and both candidates evoke more negative than positive opinions from the voting public. ECONOMIC GAINS Growing belief that the economy is improving appears to be helping the President. As he did last month, Bush receives support from most voters who think the economy is getting better but today there are more such voters. Kerry has a similarly lopsided lead among those who say the economy is getting worse, but that is now a shrinking portion of the electorate. Last month 30% of voters said the economy was worsening, while today 21% do. The President is also helped by the return of very strong support from his Republican base. Today 90% of Republican voters say they plan to back Bush in November a figure more in line with the levels of support the President was used to seeing throughout his tenure in the Oval Office. Last month, in the wake of the Iraqi prison scandals, Bush had slipped a bit among GOPers and 84% were behind him helping Kerry build what was a large lead. Kerry does continue to hold a lead among Independents, 44% to 37% for Bush though the President has cut into that margin: last month Kerry was up 16 points. And the election continues to look like it will come down to a relatively small number of swing voters, because most say their minds are already made up. Kerrys image has suffered slightly in the past month: he is now viewed slightly more unfavorably than favorably by voters. Like last month, however, he still elicits no opinion from many a reminder that Election Day is still far off and many voters have yet to see or hear much about the challenger. This is not unusual: in 1992 Bill Clinton was also unknown to more than one-third of the electorate at this point. George W Bush who not surprisingly is far better known also gets more negative than positive ratings. Kerry, meanwhile, inspires the strong support of less than one-third of his voters, while 37% are with the Democrat mainly because they dislike George W Bush. Over the weekend, the Green Party decided not to give Ralph Nader its nomination this year, making it more difficult for Nader to appear on all state ballots. If he were added to the ballot everywhere, he would hurt Kerry marginally: Bush would have 43% of the vote to Kerrys 42%, with Nader garnering 5%. The war in Iraq and the economy remain the top issues on the minds of voters. 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Bush continues to have an advantage over Kerry on saying what he believes: 58% of voters think Bush says what he believes, compared to just 34% who say the same about Kerry. Yet as the campaigns struggle to define themselves and their opponents, neither candidate is seen by voters as sharing their priorities. Only 41% of voters think Bush shares their priorities, and just 42% think Kerry shares their priorities for the country. Nor has either candidate yet given the public confidence that they could deal well with a crisis. For Bush, the unease he elicits on this measure is a reversal from earlier this year, when dealing with crises was one of his strongest suits. These numbers are virtually the same as they were in April, though down significantly since March. Just 33% have confidence in Kerrys handling of an international crisis, while 52% are uneasy about his approach, little changed since two months ago. 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