6/23 Why Do You Hate America, not a straw man:
HANNITY: (to attorney Stanley Cohen) "Is it you hate this
president or that you hate America?" (4/30/03)
HANNITY: "Governor, why wouldn't anyone want to say the Pledge
of Allegiance, unless they detested their own country or were ignorant
of its greatness?" (6/12/03)
HANNITY: "You could explain something about your magazine,
[the Nation]. Lisa Featherstone writing about the hate
America march, the [anti-war] march that took place over the
weekend..." (1/22/03)
HANNITY: "'I hate America.' This is the extreme left. There
is a portion of the left -- not everybody who's left -- that
does hate this country and blame this country for the
ills of the world..." (1/23/02)
HANNITY: (speaking to Sara Flounders co-director of the
International Action Center) "You don't like this country,
do you? You don't -- you think this is an evil country. By
your description of it right here, you think it's a
bad country." (9/25/01)
\_ It's a straw man. Hannity is a political commentator who gets
paid millions of dollars to be controversial. Hannity does not
read the motd. At best you had 1 random idiot almost 3 years
ago saying anything like that. Get over yourself.
\_ Wow, I never realized how fair and unbiased Fox News was.
\_ Why do you hate America?
\_ You know the difference between news and opinion, right?
Hannity has a talk show, not a news show. Grow up.
\_ I liked Orson Scott Card's assessment of Hannity as "relentlessly
dim". He and Rush are a burden we conservatives bear. I wish they
would both just go away. -emarkp
\_ as opposed to the brilliant insights of Orson Scott Card. -tom
\_ But if one conservative says something, that means all
conservatives believe it, right?
\_ How often do you hear conservatives vocally reject what
Hannity does? If you don't want his bullshit to reflect
on you, you have to say so. And I'm not talking about
random people on the motd. I'm talking congressmen...
\_ I wouldn't expect a high-placed politician to bother
responding to a nutty media figure, regardless of their
political affiliation. What I might expect is some rebuke
from a more sane conservative media figure, such as
Bill O'Reilly. (Did I just use 'Bill O'Reilly' and 'sane'
in the same sentence?)
\_ BOR isn't a Republican. Why would a Republican like
Hannity care? Why would a non-Republican feel the need
to 'correct' Hannity?
\_ Rush Limbaugh got a special award from the Republican
Congress in 1998. So not only do they not refute
him, they hold him up as an example.
\_ I wonder how many of you Rush haters have ever
actually listened to him for more than 5 minutes
total.
\_ How often do you hear liberals vocally reject what
[Micheal Moore/NY Times Editorial page/Al Franken/other
left-wing Media idiot does]? If you don't want his
bullshit to reflect on you, you have to say so. And I'm
not talking about random people on the motd. I'm
talking congressmen...
\_ Al Franken is more of a comedian who likes to satire
wacko Republicans like Bill O'Reilly. I wouldn't
really say he's a propagandist. People like Rush
and Ann Coulter, on the other hand, ARE serious and
their audiences do take them seriously
\_ Al Franken is a comedian like Rush is a comedian.
They are both entertainment figures. You can't
dismiss and disavow your looney while pegging the
other guy's with theirs.
\_ Most of the time when a "left-wing Media idiot" says
something that's controversial, it's Unsavory, uncouth or
in poor taste, but not factually wrong or an ad-hominem
attack. Moore's "Bush is a liar" stuff may not win the
left any points, but it is true.
\_ Uhm, but it isn't. Whatever.
\_ Uhm, but it isn't true. Whatever.
\_ I like your equation of a humorist, a propagandist, and
the editorial page of the NYTimes. None of them are
really related at all except in your little mind.
\_ It's not bigger a strech than equating Hannity,
Rush, and Coulter with all other conservatives.
You realize Rush considers himself an
entertainer/humorist? Hamnity probaly considers
himself an editorializer... etc. Since the point
was to emphasize the sillyness of your accusations by
applying them to the left as you apply them to the
right, I would say my post succeeded beautifully.
\_ Uhm, okay. I guess you have a different definition
of "entertainment" and "humor" but in my book
Rush ain't either one.
\_ Ummm... did I say anything about what I
consider humor or entertainment? No.
Re-read post. "Rush considers himself an
entertainer/humorist[.]" Now explain to me
where it says in there what _I_ think of
Rush.
\_ Well, if you took it in context instead
of picking out individual senetences, you
were commenting about how unfair it was
to lump people like Rush, BOR, and Ann
as a single group. What purpose did your
sentence (the one commenting about how
Rush sees himself as a humorist) serve other
than to prove that he shouldn't be lumped
in with other Republican lunatics like
BOR and Ann Coulter?
\_ The point being that they're all
different types a lunatic, silly. It
may surprise you to know, I don't
like ANY of those 3. SURPRISE! If
you want context, why don't you read
the whole discussion? |
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