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2004/6/16 [ERROR, uid:30824, category id '18005#19.655' has no name! , , Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:30824 Activity:high
6/15    http://tinyurl.com/3f3xz
        Some of you were sceptical that I saw a Bush commercial on TV so
        to prove it I've uploaded it. Click on BushCommercial.mpg. Oh just
        so that you don't email me on how I recorded it, I used the ATI
        Radeon All-In-Wonder 9000 card   -kchang
        \_ I don't understand. kchang committed a serious offense by using
           an auto motd mudging script. If we don't squish him then the
           by-laws of CSUA is useless. We should stick to our principles
           and keep the squished, squished.
           \_ If you're going to post a "J'accuse," you'll need to sign your
              name to be taken seriously. -anonymous coward
           \_ Uh huh, and the penalty for munging the motd should be a
              permanent expulsion from your elite little club?  He's no worse
              than many others around here who never got squished but would
              if it was a popularity contest.  Justice, tempered by mercy.
              \_ I keep saying this, and people keep ignoring this.  If
                 kchang was squished for auto-munging the motd, why weren't
                 others who were doing the exact same thing? -- ilyas
                 \_ tell us about the stars ilyas!
                    \_ w00t!
                 \_ have you ever considered the possibility that some people
                    don't like you and don't take whatever point you
                    have to make, be it valid or not, seriously?
                    \_ Yes I have.  But not considering the validity of
                       something because of the delivery mechanism is, well,
                       kind of stupid.  Also, the best people who 'don't like
                       me' can do is to not like my 'online personality'.
                       People behave differently face to face (you know, the
                       kinds of social interractions where a poorly worded
                       reply can get you a punch in the face). -- ilyas
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is it a big shock that not everyone shares your political philosophy and agenda? i guess its because we're all just stupid since you have so clearly articulated the loss of american credibility around the world for generations to come. i mean say he got a law passed saying all income above $1m year was not to be taxed? or say he decided to try disallow anybody from any muslim majority country to visit/immigrate to the US? or how about if he req'd a loyalty oath for any govt employee or said he would apply a juducal limits test on abortion for all fed jud appointtees. of how about if in the next 4 months 5000k us service people get killed in iraq. i dont think any of these will happen, but if any of these did happen, would you still support bush? btw, is there a single bush suppert who will sign his name? i'm not saying this invalidates you point, but it does seem odd. Now that I'm grown up and know better, I think that is really stupid. I mean, we have football and basketball today but people are still pretty pissed about Bush and his policies. Football and basketball are not free, and even TV broadcasts are increasingly not free (ie advent of PPV). Also, the shows at the coliseum were state sponsored, the NBA and NFL are privately sponsored. Majority of people still think Iraq has helped the September 11th attack, and invading Iraq has everything to do with WMD and terrorism. while officially run by the aediles who were public officials, the $ was augmented by wealthy individuals as opposed to now, when the public subsidizes the stadiums for the wealthy . however after the fall of the republic, there was less reason for individuals to pretend to be public spirited. i wont bore the "senate and the people of soda" but i wanted to leave a note for full disclosure and can discuss via email if anyone is interested. so later on, some of the events in the colosium did have a ticket system and women had to sit in the nosebleed seats. so you cannot generize between 2nd century bc and say the spectacles of the Neronic age. also outside rome, differnet parts of the empire were "into" different events ... like i think gladitorial games were more popular in the west than the eastern parts of the empire. it is sort of interesting that individuals figures in costests did develop reputations and the sort of had non-georgraphic teams and fans ... like these celebrities would appear on "sports merchandise". The large topic of the relations between the govt, the patrician class, and the urban underclass, the rural population etc is obviously something that changes over time as rome grows from a "city on the tiber" to "the ruler of the known world" and then changes form into an empire from a republic and cant possible addressed in depth here. if anything is incomplete, it is your criticism which is largely content-free. People will be \_ Build the "war on terror" minor wonder. People will be forced to support the government no matter what. They do shit like this all the time, you just ignore it in favor of the other stuff you don't agree with. Editorial policy drives bias no matter how much is done to prevent it - hence rightward tilt in WSJ articles or leftward tilt in NYTimes articles. Truly "objective" reporting is an impossible fantasy, and striving for it usually does more to obscure the truth than to reveal it (ie "White House reports sky is green; the only media model i'll accept is a combinatio n of original source material, like cspan, with a moderated comment forum, like slashdot. until we go to that model, the press will continue to undermine, not bolster our democracy. And CSPAN isn't original source material, it's politicians blabbing. Only very recently has more centrist news been available which in the last 5 years has over taken their leftist competitors in TV viewship, and radio listenership. I'm not aware of any mass market printed news that isn't left biased. They kind of balance each other out, but when push comes to shove the owner fires the liberal reporter. How far do you think a reporter would get in the typical newsroom if he was known to be a registered Republican? So if you compare Fox to CNN, ABC, NBC, and CBS, would you say Fox is the "least liberal" of the aforementioned stations? I would say CNN and the others are losing ratings share to Fox because they cater to the left, not the center where most people, by definition, live. The same CNN that ran like a gajillion fawning non-news reports about Reagan last week? I'd like some of what you're smoking, if you don't mind. Every station wanted to out-do the other in pro-Reagan coverage; now he's dead, the liberals don't want to appear as if they are dancing on his grave. I suppose the coverage of the run-up to the Iraq war isn't a good example either, or anything else substantial? Nope, the boogeyman of the Liberal Media is still out there, never to be defeated! We didn't instantly find 100 tons of WMD (until it recently started showing up in other countries) so that makes them sycophants? How many times have you seen Kerry described as "arch-liberal, John Kerry, jr. How many times have you seen, "arch-conservative so-n-so, Senator from xyz"? All the fucking time because anyone who isn't a Democrat has a 50/50 chance of being tagged as an arch conservative. You will *never* see an extreme ultra arch leftist like Kerry described that way. Fox *is* a conservative news outlet -- whether the cause is corporate profit, a vast right-wing conspiracy, the little green men in your pants, or all of the above -- the effect is still the same. You only see the right because you're blinded to how left the left really is. Left looks normal to you so only the right stands out for you. The center, as defined in this country is somewhere between the democrats and the republicans, and most mainstream media outlets run stories that give voice to both of the major parties. Those newspapers that endorse candidates endorse both republicans and democrats. In other words, they are centrist, at least to those not blinded by their right-wing prejudice. Fox news aligns itself with the extreme right wing of the republican party, and doesn't give any voice to the opposition. He bought one for his mom and this drunk dude picked up the other copy. org/u/7rs (yahoo news) \_ it's like the Ents took a long time to decide something obvious \_ Ketchup isn't a vegetable, it's a fruit. I'll bet you there are war plans on a dusty shelf in the pentagon somewhere for what to do when Britain turns against us, invades Florida and nukes the New York and Washington. You take your government way too seriously, IMO \_ Uh, the point was/is that governments suffer from dilbertesque idiocy and lack common sense. I don't see how you could grok that I "take government too seriously" from that. I think it's rather sad that our tax money is being wasted on studies such as "should ketchup be classified as a vegetable." Perhaps you'd like to pay for my share in all stupid studies, because I'd certainly like a refund on my tax dollar. I think our taxes should be 10% at most and all the stupid programs, welfare, etc, should go away. we had to fight sabertooth tigers for our lunch and access to the modem pool. jeez, what kind of goddamn wet behind the ears punks are they letting in these days, anyway? GHWB was much more of a pragmatist, and much less of an ideologue than the other two. I didn't agree with a lot of his policies, but his presidency didn't fill me with terror. And on the economy, he said "no new taxes" but when it came down to it, he wasn't willing to bankrupt the country the way his half-witted son is doing. It may be largely subjective, but, like I said, as much as I disliked him and his party, he just didn't scare me like Bonzo or Dumbya. So how is it that this dumbshit has control of all 3 branches of government? How much more stupid are your guys if they let him do this? America thinks you need more guts than brains for this task. Security was low on the list and "homeland" wasn't in the vocabulary yet. Sometimes I wonder if we need less intellectuals in govenment. And even though I completely disagree, nearly all R...